What if SCOTUS says turn over the tax documents and Trump says no.

[kairos12]

What are you going to do, impeach me.

Been there, done that.

I realize a commercial organization may ignore Trump and turn them over anyway.

[dem4decades]

1. That would be a Constitutional crisis.

[leftieNanner]

2. If SCOTUS says to release the records

Then Mazar's Accounting Firm will release them. The Orange One will have zero input at that point. No way will they withhold the information, no matter what the idiot says! YAY!

[kairos12]

4. I agree on this. The question would be is Mazar willing to take on the wrath of Shitler.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. He isn't their only client. They want to stay in business, not be fined,

and not have any of their execs in jail for contempt of court. They will cough up the records, count on it.

[kairos12]

10. I take your point. My question is

who would be in charge of fining them. The DOJ under Trump? Who would enforce the fine?

[StarfishSaver]

11. The Court can - and would very likely - jail and/or fine them

They will be in direct Contempt of Court and the judge would not hesitate to put them in jail.

I have no doubt if the Mazars are ordered to comply, they'll comply.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

13. It wouldn't even come to that. Mazars will produce the docs as soon as they're told to.

And there's nothing Trump can do to them if they do, except rage-tweet and hire another accounting firm. He probably owes Mazars money anyhow, since he tends not to pay people who work for him.

[StarfishSaver]

14. Agree

They're probably more than happy to turn his records over and let him deal with the consequences. They probably just wanted to be sure he didn't drag them into court and keep them there until they went out of business.

[SoCalNative]

15. He probably hasn't paid them in years

or ever anyway.

[Polybius]

16. What if the SC sides with Trump?

Can Mazars release them anyway?

[Garrett78]

17. They wouldn't. Trump would sue them out of business.

As for the SC siding with Trump, that's what I expect. 5-4 in Trump's favor. It's a sad, sad day when we're counting on John Roberts to do the right thing.

[Cicada]

3. The records are sought from third parties

If a bank or accounting firms refuses to hand over documents they can be fined, shut down, officials jailed. If supremes permit the subpoenas the documents will be turned over.

[kairos12]

5. I agree.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if these commercial agencies didn't have a huge run on shredders.

[StarfishSaver]

12. They can be jailed for that, too.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. Nothing, because Trump doesn't have them.

The subpoenas were directed to third parties, his accounting firm Mazars and Deutsche Bank. They will turn over the documents if the Supreme Court says they have to, no matter how much Fat Nixon gripes and whines.

[still_one]

7. +++++

[scheming daemons]

9. The records are coming from MAZARS - not from the executive branch

The ruling would be for MAZARS (accounting firm) to release the tax returns.... and Trump would have no ability to prevent them from doing so.