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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 06:47 PM Dec 2019

Giuliani drops stunning confession -- and undermines Trump's defense against impeachment again

When they keep saying over and over on live TV that they did the crime. Believe them! They did the crime! Why won't anyone believe them????


In an interview with The New Yorker, Giuliani admitted that he got former American ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch fired so that he could more easily pursue his efforts to dig up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden.



https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/giuliani-drops-stunning-confession-and-undermines-trumps-defense-against-impeachment-again/


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Giuliani drops stunning confession -- and undermines Trump's defense against impeachment again (Original Post) UCmeNdc Dec 2019 OP
I think it's the same kind of mindless bragging his boss loves, but... TreasonousBastard Dec 2019 #1
Being criminal AND a braggart is usually a fatal combination. marble falls Dec 2019 #2
Original source OKNancy Dec 2019 #3
Thank you. defacto7 Dec 2019 #5
You got to love how the Media has zero clue as to what is going Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #4
Can't have it both ways. Rudy Colludy is either involved in 45 decisions or he's not. U pick. Evolve Dammit Dec 2019 #6
Maybe he's a mole? bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #9
He confesses because it doesnt matter.... getagrip_already Dec 2019 #10
+1, at some point you have to think he's working against Red Don uponit7771 Dec 2019 #14
It is perplexing to say the least. I hope we will get to the truth soon, despite all the lying. Evolve Dammit Dec 2019 #16
He really could be sometimes and not others. Hortensis Dec 2019 #11
Just want to hear the truth. I don't care if it's Lev, Igor or Individual #47. "Whackjobs" is right Evolve Dammit Dec 2019 #17
Most believe Giuliani told some, devastatingly, Hortensis Dec 2019 #18
well, when the Senate repukes are just as dirty as Rudy he can say anything he wants & get away with yaesu Dec 2019 #7
he has to brag about his 'power' whether or not he has any. demigoddess Dec 2019 #8
I believe him. This time. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #12
Rudy Giuliani interview UCmeNdc Dec 2019 #13
Is this the "smoking gun" ? kentuck Dec 2019 #15

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. I think it's the same kind of mindless bragging his boss loves, but...
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 06:51 PM
Dec 2019

the problem with a doddering old fool flapping his yap is that the people who should be upset are often the ones who dismiss it as the ravings of a doddering old fool.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
3. Original source
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 06:54 PM
Dec 2019
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/12/23/the-ukrainian-prosecutor-behind-trumps-impeachment

ETA to add snip:

In a long conversation with me this past November, Giuliani largely confirmed Lutsenko’s account of their relationship. He, too, saw Yovanovitch as an obstacle, hindering his attempt to dig up dirt against his client’s rival in advance of the 2020 election. “I believed that I needed Yovanovitch out of the way,” he said. “She was going to make the investigations difficult for everybody.” Giuliani compiled a dossier on the Bidens and Yovanovitch, which he sent to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and which was shared with the F.B.I. and with me. John Solomon, a journalist, had interviewed Lutsenko for the Washington-based publication The Hill. Giuliani promoted the project. “I said, ‘John, let’s make this as prominent as possible,’ ” Giuliani told me. “ ‘I’ll go on TV. You go on TV. You do columns.’ ”
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. You got to love how the Media has zero clue as to what is going
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 06:55 PM
Dec 2019

on with Rudy. Rudy has had a vendetta against Joe Biden since 2007-2008 time frame. Biden called Rudy out of his use of the phrase,Noun,Verb and 9/11 as Rudy's answer to any questions .

Do not forget,Rudy spent millions on a Presidential Campaign and only received ONE delegate to that years RNC convention. Biden has old Rudy's number big time.

getagrip_already

(14,716 posts)
10. He confesses because it doesnt matter....
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:30 PM
Dec 2019

Barr isnt going to charge him. He doesnt need a pardon as long as barr declines to indict.

Barr may not yet be able to charge people without cause, but as long as he has declination power rudy is safe.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. He really could be sometimes and not others.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:37 PM
Dec 2019

This went on for some months. The first articles you can find on it were published I believe last February, and maybe March or April? Forget, but they just sat there like unexploded IUDs until the whistleblower blasted this crime open much later.

Also, between Giuliani and Trump, who knows just what those whackjobs who couldn't be honest and dependable if their lives depended on it knew the other was doing at any particular point?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Most believe Giuliani told some, devastatingly,
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 07:34 PM
Dec 2019

even if he tried to project his corruption on our ambassador. Thank goodness those trying to protect her got her out of there before their evil plot to destroy her was triggered.

Bastards.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
7. well, when the Senate repukes are just as dirty as Rudy he can say anything he wants & get away with
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:51 PM
Dec 2019

it, and that goes with breaking laws, barr the fixer has his back there.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
8. he has to brag about his 'power' whether or not he has any.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:54 PM
Dec 2019

cannot help himself, like every third grader who wants to be admired.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
15. Is this the "smoking gun" ?
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:29 AM
Dec 2019

That they have been looking for?

It seems a question that remains is: How much did Trump know about it? Was Rudy on his own?

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