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Based on what he said on Fox News Tonight, Rudy Giuliani... (Original Post) SKKY Dec 2019 OP
Slander per se. WheelWalker Dec 2019 #1
Possible, but more 'impressive' that he'd say such a stupid thing elleng Dec 2019 #2
The more these gangsters get away with, the harder they push. Midnight Writer Dec 2019 #3
America's mayor who works for the Con is bulletproof... pbmus Dec 2019 #4
these folks are working to destroy the good ole usa spanone Dec 2019 #5
. raging moderate Dec 2019 #6
I don't think they believe what they say. Qutzupalotl Dec 2019 #7
Yes elleng Dec 2019 #8
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2019 #9

elleng

(130,865 posts)
2. Possible, but more 'impressive' that he'd say such a stupid thing
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:39 AM
Dec 2019

to ingratiate himself with trump.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
4. America's mayor who works for the Con is bulletproof...
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:02 AM
Dec 2019

He will get a good job done tweet and faux snooze will verify with documents delivered by Zelensky...

spanone

(135,823 posts)
5. these folks are working to destroy the good ole usa
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:13 AM
Dec 2019

she was known as a staunch corruption fighter

Anti-corruption work and other activities

Yovanovitch was respected within the national security community for her efforts to encourage Ukraine to tackle corruption,[27] and during her tenure had sought to strengthen the Ukrainian National Anti-Corruption Bureau, which had been created to bolster efforts to fight corruption in Ukraine; these efforts earned Yovanovitch some enemies within the country.[28] In a March 2019 speech to the Ukraine Crisis Media Center, Yovanovitch said that the Ukrainian government was not making sufficient progress to combat corruption, saying: "It is increasingly clear that Ukraine's once-in-a-generation opportunity for change has not yet resulted in the anti-corruption or rule of law reforms that Ukrainians expect or deserve."[29]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Yovanovitch

raging moderate

(4,297 posts)
6. .
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:25 AM
Dec 2019

I think that the word "corruption," for people like Trump, Giuliani, and McConnell, does not mean what it means for most of us. They believe strongly in a rigid, punitive, authoritarian social/economic system in which "alpha males" run the show, with some window dressing by their female favorites. Whatever the biggest bullies say is what should happen, and the "corrupt" people are those who try to impose any limits on whatever the bullies want to do or force others to do.

Qutzupalotl

(14,302 posts)
7. I don't think they believe what they say.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:46 AM
Dec 2019

I think they are just trying to muddy the waters by being the first to shout “Corruption!” while being thoroughly corrupt. Accusing their opponents of what they themselves are doing.

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