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Botany

(70,442 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:08 AM Dec 2019

And so Rudy is being paid by the Russians/Vlad through Lev Parnas to help invent dirt on the Bidens

"Trump’s domestic interests are one intended beneficiary of his scheme. The other is Vladimir Putin."

And Trump, Pence, and Pompeo (?) all knew about this little scheme too.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/report-parnas-russia-ukraine-trump-impeachment-giuliani-money.html

President Trump is facing impeachment primarily for abusing his power for political gain, extorting a foreign country to discredit his political rivals. The secondary aspect of the plot is that the target of his extortion is hardly random. Ukraine is the victim of Russian aggression, and Russia’s continuing incursions into Ukrainian territory is the muscle that gave Trump’s threats leverage. Trump’s domestic interests are one intended beneficiary of his scheme. The other is Vladimir Putin.

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Meanwhile, federal prosecutors charged yesterday evening that Lev Parnas, an associate of President Trump who represented him in Ukraine, was wired $1 million from a Russian bank account weeks before his arrest. Which is to say, Trump’s Ukraine plot appears to have been financed by Russia.

Parnas met repeatedly with Trump and his lawyer, Rudy Giuliani. Parnas claims Trump pulled him aside at last year’s White House Hanukkah party and personally directed his activities in Ukraine. That allegation remains unproven. What is proven, though, is that Parnas met with Trump numerous times (there are photographs), was Giuliani’s official business partner, and represented himself to Ukrainians as an agent of both Trump and Giuliani.

Rudy has worked as Trump’s lawyer for “free,” but Parnas paid him half a million dollars for his work. If Parnas himself was being paid by Russian sources, this means the Russians were essentially subsidizing Trump, paying for the work themselves so he didn’t have to lay out a dime of his own money.

What did Russia get in return? Quite a bit. Trump attempted to hold up military aid that had been passed by Congress by margins Trump couldn’t block. He has continued to withhold a desperately sought meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky, which the Ukrainian president believed would serve as a signal of American support, and give Ukraine leverage against Russia. Instead, Trump met this week in the White House with Russian foreign minister Sergey V. Lavrov, sending the opposite of the signal Ukraine wanted. Andrew Weiss, a Russia expert at the Carnegie Institute for International Peace, tells the New York Times, “The Russians surely arranged the Lavrov visit to capitalize on all of this and to send a message to the Ukrainians that they’re basically on their own now and need to cut the best deal they can since the U.S. backstop is largely inoperative.”

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And so Rudy is being paid by the Russians/Vlad through Lev Parnas to help invent dirt on the Bidens (Original Post) Botany Dec 2019 OP
Trump and Putin want Ukraine to take the blame for 2016 hacking so blm Dec 2019 #1
Basically... kentuck Dec 2019 #2
Along with nearly the entire GOP...nt 2naSalit Dec 2019 #3
Well, they did meet in a Trump hotel. Kid Berwyn Dec 2019 #4
I wonder how Rudy looks in orange. MoonRiver Dec 2019 #5
Rudy should share the cell with Lev and Igor malaise Dec 2019 #6
This is ASTONISHING! Known on DU, but how many others know this? And why can't wiggs Dec 2019 #7
Because the media is busy pushing GOP bullshit such as: Botany Dec 2019 #8
+1 crickets Dec 2019 #9
Kick liberalla Dec 2019 #10

blm

(113,005 posts)
1. Trump and Putin want Ukraine to take the blame for 2016 hacking so
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:51 AM
Dec 2019

Russia is let off the hook and US sanctions are lifted.

Trump openly siding with Putin is a lot of pressure on Ukraine to give up and join the lie.

The Biden stuff is peripheral and more of Trump’s personal side dealing to squeeze everything he can for his personal gain.

Kid Berwyn

(14,789 posts)
4. Well, they did meet in a Trump hotel.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 11:01 AM
Dec 2019

And laundry access to oligarch money is the reason for all the favors and deals and treason.

It’s not like its the Russian or Ukrainian people’s money. Anymore.

wiggs

(7,809 posts)
7. This is ASTONISHING! Known on DU, but how many others know this? And why can't
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 11:28 AM
Dec 2019

any dem anywhere anytime be saying this first thing as answer to any media question?

"Trump's private attorney is paid by the Russian mob connected to Putin? On a national security scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being most terrifying...THIS IS A 10!!"

Botany

(70,442 posts)
8. Because the media is busy pushing GOP bullshit such as:
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 11:32 AM
Dec 2019

Will impeachment hurt the democrats?

Ukraine 2019 is just a continuation of Trump/Russia 2016.

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