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Tue Dec 17, 2019, 07:08 AM

And so Rudy is being paid by the Russians/Vlad through Lev Parnas to help invent dirt on the Bidens

"Trumpís domestic interests are one intended beneficiary of his scheme. The other is Vladimir Putin."

And Trump, Pence, and Pompeo (?) all knew about this little scheme too.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/report-parnas-russia-ukraine-trump-impeachment-giuliani-money.html

President Trump is facing impeachment primarily for abusing his power for political gain, extorting a foreign country to discredit his political rivals. The secondary aspect of the plot is that the target of his extortion is hardly random. Ukraine is the victim of Russian aggression, and Russiaís continuing incursions into Ukrainian territory is the muscle that gave Trumpís threats leverage. Trumpís domestic interests are one intended beneficiary of his scheme. The other is Vladimir Putin.

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Meanwhile, federal prosecutors charged yesterday evening that Lev Parnas, an associate of President Trump who represented him in Ukraine, was wired $1 million from a Russian bank account weeks before his arrest. Which is to say, Trumpís Ukraine plot appears to have been financed by Russia.

Parnas met repeatedly with Trump and his lawyer, Rudy Giuliani. Parnas claims Trump pulled him aside at last yearís White House Hanukkah party and personally directed his activities in Ukraine. That allegation remains unproven. What is proven, though, is that Parnas met with Trump numerous times (there are photographs), was Giulianiís official business partner, and represented himself to Ukrainians as an agent of both Trump and Giuliani.

Rudy has worked as Trumpís lawyer for ďfree,Ē but Parnas paid him half a million dollars for his work. If Parnas himself was being paid by Russian sources, this means the Russians were essentially subsidizing Trump, paying for the work themselves so he didnít have to lay out a dime of his own money.

What did Russia get in return? Quite a bit. Trump attempted to hold up military aid that had been passed by Congress by margins Trump couldnít block. He has continued to withhold a desperately sought meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky, which the Ukrainian president believed would serve as a signal of American support, and give Ukraine leverage against Russia. Instead, Trump met this week in the White House with Russian foreign minister Sergey V. Lavrov, sending the opposite of the signal Ukraine wanted. Andrew Weiss, a Russia expert at the Carnegie Institute for International Peace, tells the New York Times, ďThe Russians surely arranged the Lavrov visit to capitalize on all of this and to send a message to the Ukrainians that theyíre basically on their own now and need to cut the best deal they can since the U.S. backstop is largely inoperative.Ē

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Reply And so Rudy is being paid by the Russians/Vlad through Lev Parnas to help invent dirt on the Bidens (Original post)
Botany Dec 2019 OP
blm Dec 2019 #1
kentuck Dec 2019 #2
2naSalit Dec 2019 #3
Kid Berwyn Dec 2019 #4
MoonRiver Dec 2019 #5
malaise Dec 2019 #6
wiggs Dec 2019 #7
Botany Dec 2019 #8
crickets Dec 2019 #9
liberalla Dec 2019 #10

Response to Botany (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 07:51 AM

1. Trump and Putin want Ukraine to take the blame for 2016 hacking so

Russia is let off the hook and US sanctions are lifted.

Trump openly siding with Putin is a lot of pressure on Ukraine to give up and join the lie.

The Biden stuff is peripheral and more of Trumpís personal side dealing to squeeze everything he can for his personal gain.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 07:58 AM

2. Basically...

Trump and Rudy are both working for Vlad.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:49 AM

3. Along with nearly the entire GOP...nt

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 10:01 AM

4. Well, they did meet in a Trump hotel.

And laundry access to oligarch money is the reason for all the favors and deals and treason.

Itís not like its the Russian or Ukrainian peopleís money. Anymore.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 10:09 AM

5. I wonder how Rudy looks in orange.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 10:23 AM

6. Rudy should share the cell with Lev and Igor

for the rest of his life

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 10:28 AM

7. This is ASTONISHING! Known on DU, but how many others know this? And why can't

any dem anywhere anytime be saying this first thing as answer to any media question?

"Trump's private attorney is paid by the Russian mob connected to Putin? On a national security scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being most terrifying...THIS IS A 10!!"

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Response to wiggs (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 10:32 AM

8. Because the media is busy pushing GOP bullshit such as:

Will impeachment hurt the democrats?

Ukraine 2019 is just a continuation of Trump/Russia 2016.

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Response to Botany (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 10:39 AM

9. +1

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 07:40 AM

10. Kick

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