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I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry. (Original Post) Arkansas Granny Dec 2019 OP
*facepalm* nt cry baby Dec 2019 #1
We know it's so much easier to have someone else think for you. nt 42bambi Dec 2019 #2
As long as you're not a SHEEP. GeorgeGist Dec 2019 #3
Maybe more than you realize!!! Grins Dec 2019 #20
Me either.... Heartstrings Dec 2019 #4
Sadly, the time has passed that this was funny Hav Dec 2019 #5
I'm frankly surprised they copped to not reading it! Floyd R. Turbo Dec 2019 #6
They don't need to read it. Trump told them all they need to know. Arkansas Granny Dec 2019 #7
ouch! G_j Dec 2019 #8
I read the White House's notes on the call jayschool2013 Dec 2019 #9
That's my understanding. All we've been able to read is a summary. Arkansas Granny Dec 2019 #11
Yes correct,... magicarpet Dec 2019 #22
They are so afraid to find out they are wrong, that in fact they voted for a criminal Perseus Dec 2019 #10
Unbelievable. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #12
To be fair here... llmart Dec 2019 #13
This idiocy, stupidity, fascistic behavior,... magicarpet Dec 2019 #23
How many of us have read it? I haven't. 3Hotdogs Dec 2019 #14
Nobody has read the actual transcript... SeattleVet Dec 2019 #17
I have read what was made available to us, which is just a summary of the call. Arkansas Granny Dec 2019 #21
Dunning-Kruger Effect aeromanKC Dec 2019 #15
Ron White said it some time ago: colorado_ufo Dec 2019 #16
What this kind of skit fails to understand Alpeduez21 Dec 2019 #18
This is probably the most brazen lie of Donald Trump to date. panfluteman Dec 2019 #19

Grins

(7,205 posts)
20. Maybe more than you realize!!!
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:28 PM
Dec 2019
"Today television news is watched more often than people read newspapers, than people listen to the radio, than people read or gather any other form of communication. The reason: People are lazy. With television you just sit - watch - listen. The thinking is done for you." - From the 1970 White House memo found in the Nixon presidential library titled, “A Plan for Putting the GOP on TV News.” believed to have been written by future convict, Chuck Colson. (Emphasis in the original.)

This memo would lead, years later, to the founding of Fox News.

Richard Nixon didn’t have Fox. Donald Trump does. That's the difference. Not acoincidence, That's what Fox was created to do.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
4. Me either....
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 11:53 AM
Dec 2019

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magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
22. Yes correct,...
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:55 PM
Dec 2019

The Zelinsky call,...

We have read only the summary of that call.
The DOJ/billy barr doctored summary of the call. Once again,.. the doctored summary of the transcript of that call. But we have never seen the word for word transcript of the actual call. The actual transcript is locked away in a top secret data base were very limited people have access, all others are locked out from reviewing the word for word record of the actual call.

Link to 07/25/2019 doctored summary - [but not actual word for word transcript] of trDump/Zelinsky call,

https://www.wsj.com/video/key-moments-from-rough-transcript-of-trump-call-with-ukraine/FDC0A23E-0CB9-48C9-BA22-3ABF97141DB4.html

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
10. They are so afraid to find out they are wrong, that in fact they voted for a criminal
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:00 PM
Dec 2019

That is all that is.

I think that should be a follow up question..."You have not read the transcript because you are afraid you could be wrong about trump, that he, in fact, committed bribery?"

llmart

(15,536 posts)
13. To be fair here...
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:21 PM
Dec 2019

we've always had these kinds of people in our country. The difference these days is that because of social media and the internet, these kinds of people now think they're "informed" and "smart" and the media keeps giving them air time and hanging on their every word.

magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
23. This idiocy, stupidity, fascistic behavior,...
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 03:08 PM
Dec 2019

.... have all been celebrated and fully and absolutely N-O-R-M-A-L-I-Z-E-D by trDump.

40% of AmeriKKKa worships trDump because he knows how to trigger liberals and commie socialists.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
17. Nobody has read the actual transcript...
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:58 PM
Dec 2019

but I did read the summary of the call that the WH released the day it was made available (the one that tRump insists on calling the 'transcript').

Alpeduez21

(1,751 posts)
18. What this kind of skit fails to understand
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:09 PM
Dec 2019

is repukes don't fucking care. This is a war and their generals have told them to say this and believe it. What is not very clearly appreciated by the left is repukes have been told by Limbaugh, FOR DECADES, "I read the news so you don't have to." The power of the right's media is absolute. Fucking Limbaugh is invited to the swear in ceremony for new repukes in congress AND THEY KISS HIS ASS!

Fucking logic won't change their minds. Reason won't change their minds. They have to be defeated. Over and over and over again. Get out the vote. We are depending on the under 35 crowd and, historically, they don't vote. GET OUT THE VOTE!!

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
19. This is probably the most brazen lie of Donald Trump to date.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:14 PM
Dec 2019

Trump is a master of playing his base for fools - they're total suckers, they're mindless sheep. The transcript is one of the most damning pieces of evidence we have against Donald Trump - released by the White House. The guy waiting for Trump for hours could have read the transcript in a few minutes.

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