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I'm doing Jury Duty right now, ask me anything (Original Post) MrScorpio Dec 2019 OP
Do you have to get to a ballgame...? First Speaker Dec 2019 #1
The jury's out on that MrScorpio Dec 2019 #2
Felony? Nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #3
No idea MrScorpio Dec 2019 #4
This is boring then. Nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #5
Have You Made Up Your Mind Yet?.... global1 Dec 2019 #6
I haven't even heard the case yet MrScorpio Dec 2019 #8
That Hasn't Stopped Moscow Mitch Or Leningrad Lindsey From Making Up Their Minds....nt global1 Dec 2019 #11
Hence why I can't be a Republican Congresscritter MrScorpio Dec 2019 #16
So? jberryhill Dec 2019 #27
Do you get free coffee? Free lunch? FakeNoose Dec 2019 #7
They only offered a free soft drink with the lunch special MrScorpio Dec 2019 #9
Coffee would necessitate more frequent potty breaks. lpbk2713 Dec 2019 #43
Last one I was on this kid put on a clinic on what to not do while oout on parole for meth. brewens Dec 2019 #10
Kid? How old? Nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #12
Maybe 25. Kid to me anyway. n/t brewens Dec 2019 #24
Once we render a verdict and get released I'll give y'all highlights MrScorpio Dec 2019 #14
Does truth win out cilla4progress Dec 2019 #13
It should always MrScorpio Dec 2019 #15
No, it shouldn't jberryhill Dec 2019 #28
What are your favorite fantasies or imaginings to fill the time? Hortensis Dec 2019 #17
Chilling in Amsterdam MrScorpio Dec 2019 #19
Oh, that's a great one. If only I had the memories Hortensis Dec 2019 #25
I have a question. jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #18
Never been in the country during winter MrScorpio Dec 2019 #20
. jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #21
It feels more like it does when you get there than it does here jberryhill Dec 2019 #30
Absolutely! Especially when you go to that thing that's next to the other thing. jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #46
Oh yeah jberryhill Dec 2019 #48
Are you running for Jury Foreman? nt JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2019 #22
Haven't even considered it MrScorpio Dec 2019 #23
During voir dire are you going to tell them the accused is definitely guilty? Vinca Dec 2019 #26
That's too obvious jberryhill Dec 2019 #29
Naaaah MrScorpio Dec 2019 #33
If you are the oldest you will probably not be picked. Srkdqltr Dec 2019 #31
The are some older than me MrScorpio Dec 2019 #32
My last jury duty was a murder trial (late 90s)...just before the Thanksgiving asiliveandbreathe Dec 2019 #34
This is Michigan, there is no death penalty here MrScorpio Dec 2019 #35
I am so happy for you and MI...it wasn't even a moments hesitation for me asiliveandbreathe Dec 2019 #36
In PA, they ask on the voir dire form DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #53
Are you at the Frank Murphy courthouse? Did you find cheap or free parking? JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2019 #37
Nope, Macomb County. MrScorpio Dec 2019 #40
Darn. So I still have to search for cheap or free parking. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2019 #50
What are you wearing? aikoaiko Dec 2019 #38
I was wearing a polo shirt and black slacks. MrScorpio Dec 2019 #39
They make us wear ties in my town. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #51
Whats the difference between a duck? jcgoldie Dec 2019 #41
Is this duck cleaved in two? MrScorpio Dec 2019 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #45
Are you still beating your wife? lpbk2713 Dec 2019 #44
I am not now nor have I ever beat my wife. MrScorpio Dec 2019 #47
I always get booted out during the selection questioning.. Amimnoch Dec 2019 #49
What movie do they have playing for all of you to watch in the waiting room TV? FM123 Dec 2019 #52

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
8. I haven't even heard the case yet
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 11:48 AM
Dec 2019

Haven’t passed voir dire. Either way, nope.

Waiting to get selected, and if I do, I’ll have to decide on both the evidence and the law. I have not spoken to the judge. Not planning to either.

Unlike the Republicans, my goal today is to be a good and dutiful juror.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
43. Coffee would necessitate more frequent potty breaks.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 07:49 PM
Dec 2019


And the judge wouldn't like the trial interrupted so often.

brewens

(13,574 posts)
10. Last one I was on this kid put on a clinic on what to not do while oout on parole for meth.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 11:51 AM
Dec 2019

In north central Idaho, he had an astonishingly open minded jury too. The kids lawyer did a good job. He even got the K-9 unit officer to admit the dogs will sometimes give a false alert. That was huge. The defense had to call him back the next morning to try and walk that back. But the lawyer didn't have much to work with. We came back guilty on possession with intent to distribute and the parole violation.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
14. Once we render a verdict and get released I'll give y'all highlights
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 11:54 AM
Dec 2019

That is, if I get picked. Otherwise, nada for now

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
28. No, it shouldn't
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:12 PM
Dec 2019

There are numerous situations in which the truth should not win.

Decisions about what evidence you are allowed to see, or not see, have already been made - independent of whether it is "true".

If it is a civil trial, then true information about insurance coverage and claims is being deliberately kept from you.

You are being asked to make a determination on the basis of some, but not all, of the relevant information.

Because some of the information being kept from you, even if true, is either prejudicial or inadmissible through some procedural defect.

For example, the suspect may have truthfully confessed to the crime, but due to a defect in the way that confession was obtained, you will not know that. Convincing evidence of guilt may have been found, but due to a problem with the search warrant, you will not hear about it.

Do not believe for one moment that truth "should" always win in the US legal system. Procedural fairness should win. And it sometimes wins over truth.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. What are your favorite fantasies or imaginings to fill the time?
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:00 PM
Dec 2019

The possibilities are endless, of course. I once spent a lot of time wondering what on earth's going on with those who have to sit through the almost endless preliminaries over, and over, and over, and over. Are they somehow doing something? Did they permanently retreat into a dissociative fugue long before and are just propped up each day?

Another time I imagined how I might turn a closed gas station/restaurant across the street in the middle of town into a home to live in. Required a LOT of jackhammering of pavement to put in my imagined garden, but the town was in Southern California and stacked "stone" walls of broken concrete are fairly common. The trees were almost mature and the bathroom about due for remodeling before I got out of there.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Oh, that's a great one. If only I had the memories
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:57 PM
Dec 2019

to work from, I might be there right now. Enjoy your service.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
18. I have a question.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:04 PM
Dec 2019

Is it hotter in the summer than it is in the city or is it colder in the winter than it is in the country?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
48. Oh yeah
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 09:23 PM
Dec 2019

Most people like where it is now better than when it was in the place it used to be.

Remember that guy who lived over where the other thing used to be? I saw his ex-wife’s sister’s friend’s daughter (the older one) last week and she said he’s still there!

Vinca

(50,267 posts)
26. During voir dire are you going to tell them the accused is definitely guilty?
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:05 PM
Dec 2019

Or innocent? That's a fast trip out the door if you want it to be and it's downright presidential these days.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
29. That's too obvious
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:14 PM
Dec 2019

The better approach is to act disinterested, and reflexively say "guilty" whenever your name is called for roll.

Like, "Guilty! Uh, oh, sorry, I mean present!"

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
34. My last jury duty was a murder trial (late 90s)...just before the Thanksgiving
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:26 PM
Dec 2019

Holiday..the defendant was brought in..there had to be about 60 jurors..the judge went around the room and asked who had flight tickets..they were dismissed..then we were told the death penalty was on the table..I immediately raised my hand..the judge acknowledged me, and I explained I was against the death penalty..he told me to have a nice day...

Arizona, the U.S. Supreme Court held that a defendant has the right to have a jury, rather than a judge, decide on the existence of an aggravating factor that makes the defendant eligible for the death penalty. The Court based its judgment on the broader constitutional principle that the Sixth Amendment right to trial by jury encompasses the right to a jury finding of all facts that are necessary to put a defendant to death.


MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
35. This is Michigan, there is no death penalty here
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:28 PM
Dec 2019

At least I don’t have to worry about this trial being so dramatic

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
36. I am so happy for you and MI...it wasn't even a moments hesitation for me
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:41 PM
Dec 2019

at the time..I was new to AZ from Mass..where the fight over the death penalty went on for years..An attempt to reinstate the death penalty failed on a 73-80 vote in the House on March 29, 1999 - finally put to rest in '07..

Be well..I enjoyed the morning visiting with fellow jurors at the time..called in afternoon..

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
53. In PA, they ask on the voir dire form
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 07:44 AM
Dec 2019

if you have a "moral objection" to anything. I marked yes and when the judge asked what that was, I replied opposed to the death penalty.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
37. Are you at the Frank Murphy courthouse? Did you find cheap or free parking?
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 04:53 PM
Dec 2019

These are important jury questions, of course.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
50. Darn. So I still have to search for cheap or free parking.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 06:29 AM
Dec 2019

And when the new Wayne Co. jail and courthouse is built, it'll probably be even worse. Less parking, fewer restaurants.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
51. They make us wear ties in my town.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 07:30 AM
Dec 2019


And will provide hideous ones if you don’t own one.

They made a guy wear a tie with his polo shirt.

It looked terrible but the judge was pleased.

Response to MrScorpio (Reply #42)

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
49. I always get booted out during the selection questioning..
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 09:26 PM
Dec 2019

The second I refuse to apply the law as it’s written because I believe in the right of juror nullification, I’m taken of there. Killed a whole county case in one selection.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
52. What movie do they have playing for all of you to watch in the waiting room TV?
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 07:37 AM
Dec 2019

The last time I served, they had Avatar on - for some reason I still remember that...

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