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How can his damn approval be going up??? 43.5. (538 report) (Original Post) a kennedy Dec 2019 OP
Lots of nasty white folks out there. walkingman Dec 2019 #1
Yep. It's always those nasty white people. Bonx Dec 2019 #11
95% of the GOP is white, and have little or no empathy and think God put them on the planet walkingman Dec 2019 #17
I'm white... Esperanto.Mark Dec 2019 #21
Lots of angry racists out there who sit in their lounge chairs are a fed a steady diet of Fox. redstatebluegirl Dec 2019 #2
Bots skew the polls. They are all worthless. cutroot Dec 2019 #3
It's the Love of Bots, they're all for Putin's Puppet RainCaster Dec 2019 #4
Polls have a 3% margin of error (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Dec 2019 #5
Since going in it has never hit 50's. Any other President int he 40's would be doing poorly. Lexee Dec 2019 #6
Polling mechanics Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #7
Thank you for mentioning these factors! Grammy23 Dec 2019 #22
The Orange Anus is in deep trouble. Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #24
That seems to be mostly in his "zone" for most of his Presidency Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 #8
his base bdamomma Dec 2019 #9
Nah, you can't fix stupid more likely? Brainfodder Dec 2019 #13
They have active, big buy, ad campaigns going on.... not_the_one Dec 2019 #10
It's not! It's bullshit! ElementaryPenguin Dec 2019 #12
Its the sympathy effect of impeachment. Locutusofborg Dec 2019 #14
It's not! Look at 538... and then take out Rasmussen maxrandb Dec 2019 #15
Yes and a lot of them are Andy823 Dec 2019 #20
Christmas time. People are busy, generally happy to ignore the * show Johonny Dec 2019 #16
Impeachment (nt) Recursion Dec 2019 #18
Markets continue to go up... brooklynite Dec 2019 #19
How is it possible to poll people any more? hunter Dec 2019 #23
Exactly. rownesheck Dec 2019 #34
because he is so mistreated dems are being mean to him scarytomcat Dec 2019 #25
Wall to wall propaganda. The Wielding Truth Dec 2019 #26
America likes bad boys? marlakay Dec 2019 #27
Advertising. They do it. We don't. As simple as that. Squinch Dec 2019 #28
the tvee media is ignoring this "blue dress". they still like the moron for ratings. pansypoo53219 Dec 2019 #29
*** Because 538 CONTINUES To Over Weigh Rassmussen !!! *** uponit7771 Dec 2019 #30
Really??? Thanks for this then.....I honestly thought 538 was a pretty reliable source..... a kennedy Dec 2019 #31
rAssMusssen low rated letter grades gets better weighing than a lot of other polls. rAssMussen 48% uponit7771 Dec 2019 #32
Because Faux pas Dec 2019 #33

walkingman

(7,599 posts)
17. 95% of the GOP is white, and have little or no empathy and think God put them on the planet
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 06:06 PM
Dec 2019

to rule over everyone. Never underestimate the nastiness of white people. I am white and know that there are a lot of good white folks also and even some Republicans but those that belong to the GOP cult are pretty scary folks.

 

Lexee

(377 posts)
6. Since going in it has never hit 50's. Any other President int he 40's would be doing poorly.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 03:31 PM
Dec 2019

Because Trump sits at these numbers, if it goes up a tad we see it as him doing well. He just really moved the goal post where is doing well, is all the other elected officials doing poorly.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Polling mechanics
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 03:33 PM
Dec 2019

vary from Company to company. Bottom line,time of day,selected targets,what type of contact with those targets,cell or land line phone,how are the questions worded,is it multiple choice answers,is it open ended questions,is it a simply yes or no.

Never forget,these polls do not just happen free. Someone is paying the freight and you need to look at the origin of any Poll.

Again,it is all about the mechanics of the Poll.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
22. Thank you for mentioning these factors!
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 06:34 PM
Dec 2019

Polls have a margin of error so the numbers may be somewhat fluid. It is easy to get wedded to a particular number...forgetting the margin of error. (And all those other factors you mentioned.)

But make no mistake, tRump doesn’t have great numbers. But in addition to lying to the public, he lies to himself. He listens to the cheers at his rallies and honestly thinks he is loved and beloved. A touch of reality needs to smack him in the face.
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
24. The Orange Anus is in deep trouble.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 07:21 PM
Dec 2019

His so called base is mostly 65 plus voters with a smattering of Nationalist,Corporate Greedsters,and Conspiratorial believers.

When I saw the latest polling,the Public is wakening to the real threat we are facing. Everyone loves to bash the younger folks and their voting habits,but,they seem to have awakened to reality and I see them getting involved in a big way here with every Candidate. The Nevada Dems Digital Operation seems to be Post High School and College Students and they are aggressive in support of their chosen Candidate.

Best part is,they are using the Voter Data from two years ago and are contacting every person on those lists.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,407 posts)
8. That seems to be mostly in his "zone" for most of his Presidency
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 03:36 PM
Dec 2019

Polls fluctuate. I wouldn't be worried unless a bunch of polls start seeing him at or near 50% IMHO.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
10. They have active, big buy, ad campaigns going on....
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 03:51 PM
Dec 2019

meanwhile, from the democrats, crickets. Yet I am constantly seeing pro-turd ads on MSNBC.

The American public are very gullible, and have to be entertained and spoon-fed into thinking for themselves. The party of Putin KNOWS the American public will fall for shit... if it is repeated enough times.

Surely some big bucks, smart and progressive ad agencies could put some smart and TRUE ads together that could beat the pants off of anything they throw out... Put them together, then pitch them to the party. Then the dems just need to be willing to pay for them.

Democrats are known for our reluctance to try to level the playing field. We are too concerned with if THEY (those who are never going to vote for us anyhow...) think we are being mean and nasty. And that has bit us in the ass every time. That is why the democratic party needs a complete and total blood transfusion in the leadership.

As I have said many times, I would vote for the roadkill in the middle of the road, IF it has a D behind it. But we need to move forward, not just tread water.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
12. It's not! It's bullshit!
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 03:57 PM
Dec 2019

Look at the 2018 election results!

A total repudiation of Trump. This will be much worse, which is why the Russians providing hack help is his only chance!

maxrandb

(15,323 posts)
15. It's not! Look at 538... and then take out Rasmussen
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 04:48 PM
Dec 2019

Rasmussen has his approval anywhere from 5 to 8 points higher than the other polls. Hell, even they have him with a higher disapprove than approve.

Including ratfuck-mussen adds 2.5% to the overall approval numbers.

The real story is that even with Reich Wing skewed polls, they can't prop him above 43%.

I'm more concerned that Russian Bots are out in force to fuck with DU.

Seems to be an awful lot of "the sky is falling-his numbers are going up" posts around here lately.

Coincidence, I'm sure

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
20. Yes and a lot of them are
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 06:24 PM
Dec 2019

very low count posters who are new, or some who are low count posters who only seem to show up during election years.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
19. Markets continue to go up...
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 06:14 PM
Dec 2019

...even if they don't like him personally, they like to have a flush 401(k).

hunter

(38,311 posts)
23. How is it possible to poll people any more?
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 06:52 PM
Dec 2019

Is there anyone left who picks up calls from unknown numbers to answer questions strangers ask them?

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
34. Exactly.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 10:48 PM
Dec 2019

If a number I don't recognize calls my phone, I don't fucking answer. Makes you wonder who is answering these polls. I doubt it's a good representation of the populace.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
25. because he is so mistreated dems are being mean to him
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:59 PM
Dec 2019

polls are off no way is he going up. If he is this country is toast.

marlakay

(11,451 posts)
27. America likes bad boys?
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 09:13 PM
Dec 2019

I don’t get it in the same way people stay in abusive relationships.

Just like the relationships they know the person is bad, they know all the reasons to leave but they make excuses to stay.

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
31. Really??? Thanks for this then.....I honestly thought 538 was a pretty reliable source.....
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 10:05 PM
Dec 2019

Explains it then. Thanks.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
32. rAssMusssen low rated letter grades gets better weighing than a lot of other polls. rAssMussen 48%
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 10:07 PM
Dec 2019

... approval skews things a but.

But yeah, Trumps is at 43% which doesn't mean anything ...

Sad that its mostly democrats who are moving his numbers up and down above or below 40% ... look at the numbers

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