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UTUSN

(70,684 posts)
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 01:03 AM Dec 2019

Madame Speaker wore my Armistice Day poppy pin *today*!1

I've criticized the service clubs for being too wingnut, but my membership is permanent and I work from within. So a few months ago I did the internet shopping thing in search of permanent poppy pins instead of the paper VFW ones, and ended up with these with the motto that might be British. I gave one to friends/family. I wear mine to the local post, not just on Veterans Day.

So tonight on Brian WILLIAMS there was a clip of the Speaker being asked about Dear Leader's whacked letter (possibly written by Stephen MILLER from jottings of Dear Leader), and there was our poppy pin being worn by Madame Speaker!!!1 I am over the moon!1

Brits wear them all the time. Sometimes the whole guest panel with Graham NORTON all have them on.




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Madame Speaker wore my Armistice Day poppy pin *today*!1 (Original Post) UTUSN Dec 2019 OP
I bought a bunch of these before a group of us went to France & Belgium in 2018 Historic NY Dec 2019 #1
Wow, the exact same ones? I dremeled off the pins on the back and glued flat round magnets UTUSN Dec 2019 #3
Its the official poppy adapted for the WWI commemorative coins. Historic NY Dec 2019 #5
Nancy looks ready to kick some ass in that pic. lpbk2713 Dec 2019 #2
Thing about Nancy is, she can strike down drumf cilla4progress Dec 2019 #18
The Poppy is much bigger in UK and Commonwealth countries than in the US greenjar_01 Dec 2019 #4
Well, not really odd, as I say, can be any time. VFW tends to limit to Vets Day. UTUSN Dec 2019 #6
Definitely the UK type greenjar_01 Dec 2019 #8
What do you mean by your Armistice Day pin? lunatica Dec 2019 #7
What is now in the U.S. "Veterans Day" started as Armistice Day, end of WW I. UTUSN Dec 2019 #9
Thanks! lunatica Dec 2019 #10
As I've disputed a little bit, it can honor any time. I'm trying to find a pic with the crosses UTUSN Dec 2019 #11
OK. I think I get it lunatica Dec 2019 #12
No, it's specifically for the reason of honoring - honoring *any time*. It *is* specifically UTUSN Dec 2019 #14
I didn't mean it wouldn't be for honoring soldiers. lunatica Dec 2019 #20
My mother talked about how she memorized Raine Dec 2019 #13
WW I was horrendously brutal in the millions of deaths. All war is horrible, but it set the impact. UTUSN Dec 2019 #16
I haven't seen that Raine Dec 2019 #27
... sprinkleeninow Dec 2019 #15
Where's my Mid-Watch picture?!1 UTUSN Dec 2019 #17
When I straighten out an IRS issue, fiddle with retirement accounts, get a new phone activated, sprinkleeninow Dec 2019 #19
Well, in the time it took to write that post you could have UTUSN Dec 2019 #22
IKR. Now I need to rack. After a too-tooty-tree a.m. snack. sprinkleeninow Dec 2019 #25
When I was a youngster we still called it Armistice Day; my #1 brother was born 11-11-1948... Hekate Dec 2019 #21
Thank *you* UTUSN Dec 2019 #23
We put on a patriotic program at school for our parents and families. sprinkleeninow Dec 2019 #26
I can remember my grandfather and father wearing them. colorado_ufo Dec 2019 #24
here i shall insert a wonderful WW1 era book by floyd gibbons-and they said we wouldn't fight. pansypoo53219 Dec 2019 #28
Probably wore it for Battle of the Bulge anniversary. Lars39 Dec 2019 #29

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
1. I bought a bunch of these before a group of us went to France & Belgium in 2018
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 01:08 AM
Dec 2019

to represent our county in NY. I passed a bunch out at the AL hall and to friends.

UTUSN

(70,684 posts)
3. Wow, the exact same ones? I dremeled off the pins on the back and glued flat round magnets
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 01:10 AM
Dec 2019

to the backs, to be held onto the shirts with another magnet to not poke holes into the shirts.







 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
4. The Poppy is much bigger in UK and Commonwealth countries than in the US
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 01:12 AM
Dec 2019

Yes, it's actually quite odd that she wore it not on Veterans Day.

UTUSN

(70,684 posts)
6. Well, not really odd, as I say, can be any time. VFW tends to limit to Vets Day.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 01:18 AM
Dec 2019

And these are UK type, aren't they?







 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
8. Definitely the UK type
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 01:28 AM
Dec 2019

The motto underneath is "Lest We Forget," the traditional motto that accompanies the poppy for Nov. 11 dedications. US fans of English soccer would have seen many dedications with the poppy last month before the Premier League games.

It is a little strange to wear a poppy pin not on Veterans Day, though.

#COYI

UTUSN

(70,684 posts)
9. What is now in the U.S. "Veterans Day" started as Armistice Day, end of WW I.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 01:32 AM
Dec 2019

WW I was supposed to end all wars, so when another one came around the concept here was broadened to all veterans, not just the dead veterans of WW I. The inspiration of the poppy came from the poem "In Flanders Fields" by John McCRAE.

*NO* I didn't make them!1 I bought them on the internet!1 - I ground off the pins on the back to not tear clothes with pin holes. While I'm nowhere as talented and creative as you, you artist you, I *am* a little: Tonight wrote 600 words of the book you are going to illustrate!1

********QUOTE******

https://www.flandersfields.be/en/inspiration/poem-flanders-fields
In Flanders Fields

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

**********UNQUOTE*********






UTUSN

(70,684 posts)
11. As I've disputed a little bit, it can honor any time. I'm trying to find a pic with the crosses
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 01:42 AM
Dec 2019

that I can successfully copy/paste, am having trouble. Wait a minit!1 Here we are:









lunatica

(53,410 posts)
12. OK. I think I get it
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 01:46 AM
Dec 2019

She’s just wearing it even though it’s not for a really specific reason. For some reason I thought it was for a reason having to do with Armistice.

No one says you can’t wear is as jewelry anytime.

UTUSN

(70,684 posts)
14. No, it's specifically for the reason of honoring - honoring *any time*. It *is* specifically
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 01:54 AM
Dec 2019

for Armistice/Veterans whether it's on November 11 or not. The meaning associated with it could never be divorced to making it just any piece of jewelry.






lunatica

(53,410 posts)
20. I didn't mean it wouldn't be for honoring soldiers.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 02:36 AM
Dec 2019

I mean I understand that it can be worn anytime. Which makes perfect sense because it’s specific so no matter when you wear it people recognize it’s significance.

A simple example is you can wear Christmas jewelry any time but it’s still about Christmas first, and jewelry second.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
13. My mother talked about how she memorized
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 01:53 AM
Dec 2019

that poem in elementary school (this was before WWII) it was a poem she could still recite decades later ... Thanks for posting it it brings back memories of my mother.

UTUSN

(70,684 posts)
16. WW I was horrendously brutal in the millions of deaths. All war is horrible, but it set the impact.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 02:03 AM
Dec 2019

Have you seen "Gods and Monsters" the movie about James WHALE the director of Frankenstein? Much of it is in flashbacks to his (now called: ) PTSD over his war experience. Our parents who were pre-WW II, would have the vivid impressions of WW I horror.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120684/







sprinkleeninow

(20,237 posts)
19. When I straighten out an IRS issue, fiddle with retirement accounts, get a new phone activated,
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 02:25 AM
Dec 2019

finish setting up a new notebook, clean out and bleach an old notebook, get rid of all the leaves in back, clip shrubs for the winter, give more clothing and God knows what to charity, clean dustballs and vacuum, bring tons of articles of clothing for alteration, get Wi-Fi service in here, call our station house firefighters to come out & replace batteries in smoke and CO2 detectors, get a dryer vent hose cleaning service to come out & do the interior toob and vent on roof, put away Christmas decorations, go to the lawyer multiple times, see what's going on with garage door, see why the three year old oven door is coming apart, plus more...

then ya hep cheerlead me on to look for this elusive Midwatch thingy.

UTUSN

(70,684 posts)
22. Well, in the time it took to write that post you could have
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 02:57 AM
Dec 2019

done it all *and* looked for the thing!1 ----- I keed!1

sprinkleeninow

(20,237 posts)
25. IKR. Now I need to rack. After a too-tooty-tree a.m. snack.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 03:35 AM
Dec 2019

That was a playful banter if I must say so myself.

Dobré noç. Slovakian for good night!

I haven't forgotten you. How could I now....¿!11℃

Hekate

(90,656 posts)
21. When I was a youngster we still called it Armistice Day; my #1 brother was born 11-11-1948...
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 02:47 AM
Dec 2019

We also received paper mache poppies to wear in remembrance, and were told that WWI had ended on the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month, and that even though WWII came afterward, it was still important to remember. I don't remember when the powers that be decided to call it Veterans' Day and kind of forget there had been an Armistice.

That's a nice-looking enamel pin, by the way. Thanks for the post.

sprinkleeninow

(20,237 posts)
26. We put on a patriotic program at school for our parents and families.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 03:42 AM
Dec 2019

I used to get the paper poppies from vets offering them for a donation at shopping areas come to think of of. Thx for the memories!

pansypoo53219

(20,974 posts)
28. here i shall insert a wonderful WW1 era book by floyd gibbons-and they said we wouldn't fight.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 08:56 AM
Dec 2019

its beautiful book by an early embedded reporter. he has some great stuff before he got injured. the stuff he wrote about other wounded soldiers is great too. i am so glad i found it.

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