Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:11 AM

When and How Will Putin cut Trump loose? What is Putin's Endgame?

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When and How Will Putin cut Trump loose? What is Putin's Endgame? (Original post)	mylightningtoo	Dec 2019	OP
He can't cut him loose I don't think	Beringia	Dec 2019	#1
When the Republicans figure a way to get out from under Putin's thumb	TheRealNorth	Dec 2019	#2
Cut him loose from what? Putin wants the US ...	Whiskeytide	Dec 2019	#3
no reason to ever cut trump lose as for end game? HE already has acheived it and now enjoying	beachbumbob	Dec 2019	#4
The goal is to get the sanctions lifted and destabilize the West.	dewsgirl	Dec 2019	#5
This and destroying the US politically from within for as long as he can...	crickets	Dec 2019	#14
What do you do with a Kleenex when you're done with it?	dchill	Dec 2019	#6
What's Putin's end game?	Firestorm49	Dec 2019	#7
At the end of the Trump presidency, I can see putin	mylightningtoo	Dec 2019	#8
The end game for Putin is destruction of NATO and us in a civil war.	CanonRay	Dec 2019	#9
I work at Fort Bragg, NC;	mylightningtoo	Dec 2019	#10
They're usually full of shit	CanonRay	Dec 2019	#16
Endgame: Keep On Putin'	eShirl	Dec 2019	#11
It depends.	Xolodno	Dec 2019	#12
There is also is the law of unintended consequences	Beringia	Dec 2019	#13
The endgame is a global fascist hegemony.	Voltaire2	Dec 2019	#15

Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:14 AM

Beringia (3,833 posts)

1. He can't cut him loose I don't think

I don't think Putin necessarily wanted trump, I think he wants to disrupt and create chaos and weaken American democracy.

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Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:17 AM

TheRealNorth (2,833 posts)

2. When the Republicans figure a way to get out from under Putin's thumb

I.e. have enough of the system rigged so that they can't lose power, then they no longer will be afraid of what Putin has on Trump or the party.

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Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:18 AM

Whiskeytide (3,197 posts)

3. Cut him loose from what? Putin wants the US ...

... weakened on the world stage. trump has done that and will continue to do it as long as he is in office.

Putin wants domestic chaos, division and unrest in the US. trump has done that, and will continue to do it even out of office.

They are not actual buddies. trump may think they are, but Putin is just using trump as a tool for destruction.

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Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:20 AM

beachbumbob (9,263 posts)

4. no reason to ever cut trump lose as for end game? HE already has acheived it and now enjoying

the victory laps

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Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:29 AM

dewsgirl (14,433 posts)

5. The goal is to get the sanctions lifted and destabilize the West.

I don't think that he gives up, until the sanctions are lifted.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:24 AM

crickets (15,690 posts)

14. This and destroying the US politically from within for as long as he can...

But getting the sanctions lifted so he can get to the money opportunities on the other side is the real prize.

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Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:31 AM

dchill (26,263 posts)

6. What do you do with a Kleenex when you're done with it?

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Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:41 AM

Firestorm49 (2,595 posts)

7. What's Putin's end game?

Just look around. Look at Spain, Italy, England, Austria, most of South America, the good old US of A. This trend is no accident, and it looks like Putin is winning. End game? King of the planet.

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Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:52 AM

mylightningtoo (58 posts)

8. At the end of the Trump presidency, I can see putin

openly expressing how corrupt Trump was and how the Democratic party was right. A total mindf*** for the Trump base and the seeds for even more discord and chaos.

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Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:55 AM

CanonRay (11,511 posts)

9. The end game for Putin is destruction of NATO and us in a civil war.

We're close...

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Response to CanonRay (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:59 AM

mylightningtoo (58 posts)

10. I work at Fort Bragg, NC;

A Trump nut came into my office and told me things were going to "get crazy come six o'clock this afternoon," meaning after the impeachment vote.

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Response to mylightningtoo (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:55 AM

CanonRay (11,511 posts)

16. They're usually full of shit

but who knows.

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Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:00 AM

eShirl (17,112 posts)

11. Endgame: Keep On Putin'

not much downside for him

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Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:15 AM

Xolodno (4,516 posts)

12. It depends.

Trump loses re-election...he could spill the beans then, it would really hammer it across the world that corruption has taken root in the USA. And the incoming D President is going to have their work cut out for them both domestically and internationally.

If he wins re-election, anytime Putin no longer finds any use for him.

Then the x factor, they could have enough on everyone to keep their operation going after Dump is dumped.

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Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:22 AM

Beringia (3,833 posts)

13. There is also is the law of unintended consequences

Maybe the democracy will be strengthened. The constitution will be tested.

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Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:31 AM

Voltaire2 (8,886 posts)

15. The endgame is a global fascist hegemony.

Lead of course by Russia. No need to cut Trump loose at all.

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