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salvorhardin

(9,995 posts)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:59 PM Sep 2012

Historian sees complex debt schemes key in many US downturns

Since the financial market collapse of 2008, hardly a news cycle has churned without reference to the Great Recession being the worst financial meltdown since the Great Depression.

For some, those two bad-debt calamities loom as the dark anomalies in the brighter story of America's long ascent to economic superpower.

Not so, says Scott Reynolds Nelson, a history professor at the College of William and Mary.

The 2008 meltdown was just the latest in a long line of financial crashes caused by Americans' knack for embracing complex credit schemes to meet a ravenous hunger for capital, Nelson writes in his new book, "A Nation of Deadbeats: An Uncommon History of America's Financial Disasters."

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"The bank was saved and the people were ruined," Nelson quotes political economist William Gouge as saying in an 1833 work, "The Curse of Paper-Money and Banking," of actions taken by the Second Bank of the United States amid the Panic of 1819.

Full story: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-rt-books-deadbeats-review-correctedl2e8k5e4y-20120905,0,5509580,full.story
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Historian sees complex debt schemes key in many US downturns (Original Post) salvorhardin Sep 2012 OP
Narcissistic Fibrosis. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #1
Can I interest you in some real estate in Florida? salvorhardin Sep 2012 #3
No, but where's the Alan Greenspans in your orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #6
I must be dense... nebenaube Sep 2012 #2
It's pretty simple really........ socialist_n_TN Sep 2012 #4
It's like a virus orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #5
slight correction. the field with the most profit in a downturn is crime, and that's exactly HiPointDem Sep 2012 #7
Well said. Nt xchrom Sep 2012 #8
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
6. No, but where's the Alan Greenspans in your
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:15 AM
Sep 2012

Guru's chronological journey through American history ? " I THOUGHT THEY WOULD POLICE THEMSELVES " thats the mantra through history thats let charlatans use the public to play " Winner take all " Enablers and opportunists put us where we are .not credit schemes.I've never been to florida, and as time goes on I want to visit it and them less.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
4. It's pretty simple really........
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 10:59 PM
Sep 2012

if you're a Marxist. The rate of profit falls because of modernized production techniques. Capital flows where it can make the most profit and that turns out to NOT be investment in more production, but in fancy, legal or semi-legal gambling, i.e., the stock market or some equivalent. Eventually the bets are lost and the fictitious capital (debt) gets eaten up in the bust and the working class gets screwed by the crash.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
7. slight correction. the field with the most profit in a downturn is crime, and that's exactly
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:45 AM
Sep 2012

what they 'invest' in, criminal frauds they dream up to steal money from the peons.

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