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"The real question -how will impeachment help Trump and hurt Democrats?" (Original Post) orangecrush Dec 2019 OP
Remember all the way back to 2018, and how it was a referendum on Trump. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #1
Repug reality diconnect orangecrush Dec 2019 #2
Hey - you channelling Chris Cillizza? On CNN.com today. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2019 #3
Yup. orangecrush Dec 2019 #8
Kick superpatriotman Dec 2019 #4
... orangecrush Dec 2019 #12
Chucky, is that you? Drahthaardogs Dec 2019 #5
... orangecrush Dec 2019 #9
Chuck Todd? Chris Cillizza? blm Dec 2019 #6
Both. orangecrush Dec 2019 #10
I'm sure Chuck Todd is on that! Scurrilous Dec 2019 #7
You are correct orangecrush Dec 2019 #11

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. Remember all the way back to 2018, and how it was a referendum on Trump.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:19 PM
Dec 2019

And 2019 as well.

With energy, and high turnout, 2020 will see the political end of Trump.

orangecrush

(19,516 posts)
2. Repug reality diconnect
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:23 PM
Dec 2019


They are actually saying making military aid contingent on manufacturing dirt on a political opponent is "nothing wrong".

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
7. I'm sure Chuck Todd is on that!
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:36 PM
Dec 2019

Meanwhile...

Chuck Todd: The 2010s 'probably the worst decade in American politics' in our lifetimes

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"NBC's Chuck Todd said the past decade has "probably been the worst decade in American politics, certainly in our lifetimes" on Wednesday while noting how "unremarkable" the day felt ahead of President Trump's likely impeachment in the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives.

The remarks come as the Democratic-controlled House debates impeaching President Trump. The vote later Wednesday is expected to be almost exclusively along party lines. The two articles of impeachment include abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

"I was struck both just last night and this morning how unremarkable today has suddenly felt, suddenly feels," Todd began. "And I say that because it is remarkable what’s happening — it is historic, what’s happening."

“Basically, this has probably been the worst decade in American politics, certainly in our lifetimes," the "Meet the Press" moderator continued. "Maybe the '50s and '60s had periods like this, but a sustained decade of decline.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/475168-chuck-todd-the-2010s-probably-the-worst-decade-in-american-politics-in-our


Meet The Press hosts all-Republican panel of voters to downplay impeachment

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"On December 15, NBC host Chuck Todd presented excerpts of an interview with voters in Kent County, Michigan, to discuss impeachment. The panel consisted entirely of Republican voters, most of whom voted for President Donald Trump in 2016, and most expressed either opposition or lack of interest in impeachment.

Todd introduced the voters in Kent County as “all Republican, most of whom voted for Trump in 2016.” Each voter explained why they don’t care about impeachment, arguing that “it’s just noise” and people “are just not interested” or “don’t have the time to try to follow it.” One voter compared Trump’s impeachment to that of former President Richard Nixon, arguing that Nixon’s pending impeachment was “really, really grave at the time,” but Trump’s feels like “political theater.”

Some of the voters did offer criticisms for Trump -- “he doesn’t win a lot of style points” -- but justified their decision to vote for him because of their support of Republican policies. One voter argued that “we knew who Trump was when they voted for him,” while another said that “Trump will come and go,” but “the Republican Party has the best set of answers.” A few voters did express discomfort over Trump’s actions regarding Ukraine -- one claimed he did want to know if Trump “directed a quid pro quo with Ukraine,” and another said that “it’s unlikely that (Trump’s) innocent,” but they still concluded that impeachment was relatively unimportant. Some voters also offered confused perceptions of key aspects of Trump’s conversation with the Ukrainian president without clarifications from the interviewer, NBC’s Dante Chinni.

https://www.mediamatters.org/meet-press/meet-press-hosts-all-republican-panel-voters-downplay-impeachment


Amazing how Chuck's "unremarkable" comment echoes the Republicans on the panel. “it’s just noise” “political theater” "people are just not interested” "...they still concluded that impeachment was relatively unimportant."

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