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TwilightZone
(25,342 posts)No, they found that there was enough evidence to draft articles of impeachment. It is up to the Senate to determine if he is guilty.
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)TwilightZone
(25,342 posts)The impeachment phase does not determine guilt or innocence. It determines only if there is enough evidence to warrant sending articles of impeachment to the Senate for trial by the Senate. It's similar to a grand jury determining if a person should be indicted.
The Senate holds a trial and determines his guilt or innocence.
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)Because of the votes of the House of Representatives regardless of the Senate
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)Karadeniz
(22,283 posts)OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)The Senate has to protect the Constitution
Wounded Bear
(58,442 posts)It is up to the Senate to determine if Trump should be removed. If he isn't, then rule of law suffers and the Constitution takes a huge hit.
As for if Trump is "really" impeached, the votes are taken and recorded in the Congressional Record. He is impeached. If we're comparing to a criminal trial (which is admittedly a very loose comparison) he has been indicted and is awaiting trial.