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OhNo-Really

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Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:08 PM Dec 2019

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"found him Constitutionally guilty" TwilightZone Dec 2019 #1
? Trump is Impeached on 2 Counts. OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #2
And? TwilightZone Dec 2019 #3
And yet branded Impeached for eternity. OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #4
Lawrence Tribe agrees OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #7
You are right!!!!❤ Karadeniz Dec 2019 #5
Thank you ❤️ I ❤️ the US Constitution OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #6
Yes, the Constitution is really what is at question here... Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #8

TwilightZone

(25,342 posts)
1. "found him Constitutionally guilty"
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:20 PM
Dec 2019

No, they found that there was enough evidence to draft articles of impeachment. It is up to the Senate to determine if he is guilty.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
2. ? Trump is Impeached on 2 Counts.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:24 PM
Dec 2019

TwilightZone

(25,342 posts)
3. And?
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:35 PM
Dec 2019

The impeachment phase does not determine guilt or innocence. It determines only if there is enough evidence to warrant sending articles of impeachment to the Senate for trial by the Senate. It's similar to a grand jury determining if a person should be indicted.

The Senate holds a trial and determines his guilt or innocence.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
4. And yet branded Impeached for eternity.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:58 PM
Dec 2019

Because of the votes of the House of Representatives regardless of the Senate

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
7. Lawrence Tribe agrees
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 11:15 AM
Dec 2019

Karadeniz

(22,283 posts)
5. You are right!!!!❤
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:33 PM
Dec 2019

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
6. Thank you ❤️ I ❤️ the US Constitution
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:35 PM
Dec 2019

The Senate has to protect the Constitution

Wounded Bear

(58,442 posts)
8. Yes, the Constitution is really what is at question here...
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 11:20 AM
Dec 2019

It is up to the Senate to determine if Trump should be removed. If he isn't, then rule of law suffers and the Constitution takes a huge hit.

As for if Trump is "really" impeached, the votes are taken and recorded in the Congressional Record. He is impeached. If we're comparing to a criminal trial (which is admittedly a very loose comparison) he has been indicted and is awaiting trial.

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