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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere's a photo of something pretty amazing, but non-political.
In it, an opossum is pulling ticks off a deer's face. 'Possums eat ticks, but I've never seen one helping another species by eating them off the other animal. I wonder how common this is and how the deer figured out that the opossum could help. Amazing!
Wounded Bear
(58,619 posts)Yeah, I watch a lot of nature documentaries.
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)I see a lot of opossums, and have even hand-fed them just outside of my door, but I've never even heard of deer or other animals coming to them for tick removal. Seems amazing to me that the two species would have figured this out.
Wounded Bear
(58,619 posts)evilhime
(326 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Sea birds follow the Dolphins, even as the fish swim hundreds of miles to feeding grounds. Other animals such as sharks and whales also moved toward the feeding ground by instinct, they rely on the dolphins to seperate small schools of sardines that can be fed upon, even though about half of the sardine seperated off survive and go on their way. It was an amazing show to watch.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Utterly fascinating. I'd love to know too. I absolutely love learning about things like this.
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)is putting food on that round concrete stepping stone. That would attract the deer, as well as the opossum, since they're omnivores. The deer has ticks, which would also attract the opossum. Since an opossum isn't a deer predator, the deer wasn't alarmed the first time it encountered it. So the opossum grabbed a tick, which the deer doesn't mind at all.
That's my guess about how the two learned about the mutual benefits.
IndyOp
(15,512 posts)I think the croc-plover species relationship is equally odd and interesting - the bird is in the crocs mouth
https://www.fromthegrapevine.com/nature/amazing-symbiotic-animal-relationships
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)Hekate
(90,616 posts)All amazing.
erronis
(15,216 posts)IndyOp
(15,512 posts)In any case, all I can think about is the poor bird - it must stink all to high heaven inside that ear.
Hekate
(90,616 posts)MineralMan
(146,281 posts)iscooterliberally
(2,860 posts)I was out walking my old dog Samson. He's about 14 so we go slow and just mosey on down the road. One of my cats was tagging along since the sun wasn't even up yet and there wasn't much traffic. I have another small female cat that likes to join us sometimes too. She usually comes racing out of the shadows and then does figure eights between my legs. I thought it was her, because I saw this little shadow come tearing across the street towards us. It ran right up into my flashlight and sat there between my dog and cat. Everyone just stopped and looked at each other. The little opossum caught the scent of my dog after a few seconds and took off back across the street. It was a strange encounter to say the least. Opossums are quite common in south Florida.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)The little bastard hangs around my house because he likes cat food. There is a feral cat colony that lives on my property and I feed them twice a day.
I have seen the possum climb a tree in my back yard, from which he can easily climb onto the second floor roof.
Now I think he found a way to get into my attic. Last night I heard what sounded like a cat running across the attic floor, directly above my bedroom. The cats were all accounted for, so I think the possum goes in the attic to stay warm at night.
iscooterliberally
(2,860 posts)I opened my front door the other day and found one eating the food that I leave out for a neighborhood stray. It might have even been the same little one that came up to us on our walk.
LeftInTX
(25,201 posts)I've got plenty of both in my yard.
https://www.raccoonatticguide.com/noises.html
http://www.animalatticpest.com/noises.html
Raccoons can be very noisy. We had a hinged flap on our chimney, to prevent rats from getting in the house. One night I heard, "bang, bang". I knew it was raccoons opening and closing the flap. I could just imagine them getting down the chimney and into the home. The next day, we completely sealed that flap. (I have no need for a fireplace in San Antonio.)
Raccoons also love cat food.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)I see the possum 3 or 4 times a week. On my back porch eating cat food, climbing a tree in the backyard, and now on the roof.
LeftInTX
(25,201 posts)They create their own communal toilets. For some reason they decided that a small utility post was their hangout, so it was easy to spot.
They also will use roofs as a communal latrine. Every time we clean the roof/gutters, we have to remove raccoon poop.
Possums don't do this.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)LeftInTX
(25,201 posts)Captain Zero
(6,799 posts)if you have squirrels around they will get in too. They do like the warmth in winter, but they don't pay for the damage they can do and they don't pay your heating bill.
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)handouts. The cats weren't bothered. In fact, they'd walk right up to them and sniff noses with them. We had raccoons that visited our back door, too. I gave them peanuts in the shell, and some of them would walk up and take them from my hand with their front paws. No conflicts there. One of our cats sometimes did the nose sniff thing with them, too.
The 'possums were shy, but the raccoons made themselves right at home. I came out of the bedroom one evening, and one of the female raccoons was having a nap on our couch. We had a big cat flap at the front of the house, so it apparently decided to come in out of the cold for a while. Anyhow, it saw me and jumped down off the couch and went back out through the cat flap.
We never had any problems with any of the critters.
iscooterliberally
(2,860 posts)Raccoons and opossums are everywhere it seems. We have a cat flap at the back of our house. We haven't had any wild critters come in that we know of. We did have this big black stray cat come in. He likes to roll around on the cat tree in our living room. It's covered in catnip. The other cats don't like him because he's a bit of a bully. We feel bad because he's friendly to people but no one knows where he came from or if he has a home. Some of the neighbors feed him too.
PatrickforO
(14,566 posts)I've seen pictures of birds, for instance, on giraffes, zebras, horses, rhinos and other large animals, picking off ticks and other insects.
I mean, even at a microscopic level, think of the pro-biotic bacteria in your gut. You have to have this bacteria, which eat stuff that can make you sick or even die.
And cats. We have five cats, and they habitually groom each other.
We are the only species that exploits rather than helps. Because we have not thought through, as a species, what our relationship with other life should be. It is the old Calvinistic blasphemy of human against nature, rather than the much, much wiser human with nature.
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)I'll bet you pet those cats, too, which they seem to enjoy.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Great critters.
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)They're peaceful animals, too. I've never heard of anyone getting bitten by one. They will hiss at you if you come up on them unexpectedly, but they don't seem to want to bite. I've scritched a few on the head, actually.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)At night, theyd come in and look around, so I started putting food out. Two came at first, then they brought the whole family.
I loved it.
Apparently, they dont get rabies either. Always a plus!
calimary
(81,179 posts)Started with one. She (I assume female, never got close enough to check) soon returned with two smaller ones. Theyd eat the leftover cat food when we let our cats out most of the day. We dont anymore. But theyd avail themselves of whatever was left over in the cat dish.
Eventually, they got used to us watching them. Sometimes wed open the top of the French door and watch from there. And not long afterwards, if we sat out on the back steps silently and held a hand out with kibble, theyd approach. And theyd slowly take the kibble. With these long bony fingers. And theyd go to the cats water bowl and wash the kibble before eating it. Raccoon behavior. Truly fascinating.
Those long thin bony fingers. Amazing. Very soft. The touch is very soft. I experienced it myself. Just amazing.
When you present to animals as non-threatening, really jaw-dropping things can happen.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Much easier to trust than humans lol.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)He knocks over plants on my back porch and the bowls of food for my feral cat colony. The water bowl too.
And he stinks. I can always tell when he has recently been on my porch eating cat food. A stench like burnt garbage (or so I imagine) lingers when he has been there. I have never actually burned garbage, so this is a guess on my part.
panader0
(25,816 posts)And they're definitely not friendly.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)Although they are certainly not cute and cuddly, javelinas are not nearly as ugly as possums!
panader0
(25,816 posts)They are surprisingly fast and their teeth are like razors.
I took my friend's nearly dead dog, a 120 lb Rhodesian Ridgeback,
to the vet once for 130 stitches. When I go out in the dark morning
for firewood, I am careful. They are very protective of their young.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)associates that live in those places, you don't want to mess around with them, they are vicious.
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Well, you have changed my thoughts on opossums.
mjvpi
(1,388 posts)Someday well be able to work with Republicans again.
erronis
(15,216 posts)After this current fiasco they'll lay low for 5-10 years and then come back to try and poison democracy, again.
Also beware of them just changing names, putting on a sheep jacket.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)MineralMan
(146,281 posts)They're one of my favorite critters. Unappreciated, too.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)We have lots of possums here in Missouri.
They can only see a few inches so they get hit by cars. Poor little guys.
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)They're slow-moving, slow to react, and slow-thinking. Still, they have spread over the entire United States, so they have something working for them. They're a very successful animal, overall.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)Their body temperature is too low and rabies can't develop. I think that's so interesting.
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)Fascinating critters. I used to get a kick out of seeing a momma 'possum waddling along with her babies on her back.
LeftInTX
(25,201 posts)I assume they hiss at people because they are slower moving.
The more dangerous urban dweller is the raccoon.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)The deer was resting and the opossum came around and sniffed out the deer and the deer started feeling safe, and then the opossum did some grooming or picking off ticks or other things.
The opossum has to know what to do too.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,168 posts)erronis
(15,216 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)My sister's guest room high in the Sierra Nevada looked out into a little clearing at a feeder she maintained for wildlife. We see on documentaries how animals show themselves to each other but not to the us, and that's what I watched secretly out that window at night: several different creatures coming to the little clearing, 4 deer coming forward in turns, raccoon or possums -- and her own cat and dogs sitting quietly around the edge watching the nightly gathering on "their" territory the rest of the time. I just realized I no longer remember just which critters were there. There was at least one other kind, but this post reminded me immediately of a fairly large waddling one, a possum?, going up to a deer and sniffing at its nose held down for the interaction before heading off.
Vinca
(50,249 posts)since possums moved into the yard. Our house is from the late 1700's and has nooks and crannies for creatures to occasionally get in the basement. One day my husband went down to the cellar for something and found the possum we named Ollie sitting on a heating duct. I haven't seen Ollie yet this winter (they usually show up at the bird feeder) and I'm hoping he's still around.
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)I guess enough heat comes out of them to keep them more cozy in really cold weather.
LeftInTX
(25,201 posts)I didn't know possums could eat mice. (Mainly because they are slow) I assume raccoons do.
So far neither has controlled rats or mice.
We don't have large snakes, bobcats or coyotes which are probably their best predators.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)MineralMan
(146,281 posts)Once you get to know them, though, they sort of grow on you. They're pretty mellow critters, really.
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panader0
(25,816 posts)Throck
(2,520 posts)That deer is ticked off now.
Bayard
(22,035 posts)For good reason, so bring it on!
Possums eat dead birds, specifically, dead bird wings. "Equine Protozoal Myeloencephalitis (EPM) is a neurologic disease in horses caused by infection with the protozoan Sarcocystis neurona (SN). SN infects horses when they ingest the organism in contaminated feed or water. The definitive host of this organism is the opossum, which passes the organism in its feces."
There is no vaccination. Most horses in the eastern U.S. will test positive for being exposed to it, but may not become symptomatic. It is not contagious--has to come by way of possums. I've had to treat two horses for it (very expensive), and I have a friend who is treating one now. Various symptoms. Her old gelding has trouble keeping his balance. My mare had lasting damage in her neck, and her tongue used to hang out sometimes.
As for raccoon's, we have to trap them here on the farm. They eat the chickens and ducks. I had one break into a duckling pen, and kill all 12 of them just for the hell of it. It only ate a few.
LeftInTX
(25,201 posts)Raccoons are the ultimate adapters to urban and human environments. People point to coyotes, but raccoons win hands down. At least coyotes don't like people. Raccoons don't but, they aren't shy. I've seen them standing and looking in our window. A coyote would never do that. Also raccoons are known to invade homes. Also they have the dexterity to do just about anything that other animals can't.
d_r
(6,907 posts)d_r
(6,907 posts)Years ago sitting in porch swing overlooking a field. Possum walking across field. Outdoorsy black lab jumps it, drops it, dead. Lab lays down facing it watching it. A little while later the possum comes back to life. The lab kills it against n and lays down and watches. A little while later the possum comes back to life. Lab kills it again and lays down watching. This kept going for like an hour until some one came and called off the lab. It had found the best greatest toy ever.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,012 posts)burrowowl
(17,636 posts)We have met the enemy and it is us!
bucolic_frolic
(43,115 posts)that's all. the deer is like a lunch counter to him.
Niagara
(7,589 posts)This trail cam image is amazing!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)I love this 🥰 ... Thanks for posting it!