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SOTU Just announced! (Original Post) Totally Tunsie Dec 2019 OP
Well*that* will be a hot mess nt blaze Dec 2019 #1
That's certainly one way of putting it Hekate Dec 2019 #12
Put the podium in a congressional bathroom stall spanone Dec 2019 #2
The podium should be a dishwasher ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #3
He will be in there for hours flushing the toilet multiple times. fleur-de-lisa Dec 2019 #5
Oh Nancy,... magicarpet Dec 2019 #4
Nancy, please turn the screws a little tighter. No, more than that. Keep going... CanonRay Dec 2019 #24
Here,... magicarpet Dec 2019 #26
THIS CanonRay Dec 2019 #28
It will be a finger pointing whine fest. lpbk2713 Dec 2019 #6
The day after the Iowa caucus karynnj Dec 2019 #7
She's turning the screws on McConnell. Trump will want the trial over with before SOTU. RockRaven Dec 2019 #8
Karine Jean-Pierre: "Nancy Patricia D'Alesandro Pelosi's version of the Art of War." Dennis Donovan Dec 2019 #9
Now that is quite the observation! Hekate Dec 2019 #11
That should have been a bargaining chip, too. coti Dec 2019 #10
She really couldn't. Dennis Donovan Dec 2019 #13
Appear political? Like the Senate not having a trial when the President has been impeached? coti Dec 2019 #15
I feel the same way, but I trust Nancy. nt XRubicon Dec 2019 #17
Consider the alternative: onenote Dec 2019 #19
She's using it tactically. It's not being given away. RockRaven Dec 2019 #16
Go Nancy! flamingdem Dec 2019 #14
Yes. MSNBC showed the official letter she sent lunatica Dec 2019 #18
Maybe Mike Pence will be giving it... Buckeyeblue Dec 2019 #20
hmm.... bdamomma Dec 2019 #21
All your base are belong to us. C_U_L8R Dec 2019 #22
Nancy set him up the bomb Brawndo Dec 2019 #25
Look at the bright side Andy823 Dec 2019 #23
Madame Speaker! YOU are a Genius! ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2019 #27
For some of us who Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #29

magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
4. Oh Nancy,...
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:08 PM
Dec 2019

Have a little mercy,

You're going to drive him totally bonkers,

Oh fuck it, go ahead have fun, the sooner he is gone the better for America and the world.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
6. It will be a finger pointing whine fest.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:11 PM
Dec 2019


There will be very little substance devoted to the actual state of the union.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
7. The day after the Iowa caucus
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:12 PM
Dec 2019

I would guess that is the least bad timing for the Senators running. I would bet that most candidates will put out their own response - as Obama did in 2008. (I was trying - unsuccessfully see if he attended, but failed) Here is Obama's response to Bush's last SOTU



It might be good if all the candidates agree to NOT attend or -- if they all attend, it would be wonderful if they all sit together.

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
8. She's turning the screws on McConnell. Trump will want the trial over with before SOTU.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:12 PM
Dec 2019

He'll be apoplectic if he has to give a SOTU while impeached but not yet acquitted.

But Trump also wants a ridiculous spectacle trial. McConnell wants it short and quiet to protect his members and thereby his majority. Even if McConnell puts Senate GrOPers ahead of Dolt45, they can't get it started until the articles are delivered. Pelosi won't deliver the articles until McTurtle agrees to the rules....

Once they get back on Jan 7, it's just 4 weeks...

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
13. She really couldn't.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:28 PM
Dec 2019

The SOTU was almost postponed last year due to the federal shutdown (causing security and logistics issues). She never acted out of spite. Doing so this year would appear political.

coti

(4,612 posts)
15. Appear political? Like the Senate not having a trial when the President has been impeached?
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:33 PM
Dec 2019

Like not allowing Merrick Garland to be appointed to the SCOTUS?

Why this fear of "appearing political" if she has a clear goal to be accomplished in what she does? If she demands a fair impeachment trial and defends our Constitution while keeping what the traitor wants from him, how is she doing anything other than her job?

We're going up against fucking FASCISM, here. We need to stop it with this namby-pamby bullshit if we care about our children's futures.

onenote

(42,693 posts)
19. Consider the alternative:
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:44 PM
Dec 2019

You think Pelosi had leverage? Not really. Trump would have been thrilled if Pelosi had refused to invite him to give his state of the union address in the House chamber. He would have used that as an excuse to give his state of the union address to an overflowing arena full of rabid Trumpers (dutifully televised by all the networks).

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
16. She's using it tactically. It's not being given away.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:38 PM
Dec 2019

Sometimes things that look like bargaining chips from one angle are more useful when employed as levers or wedges.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
18. Yes. MSNBC showed the official letter she sent
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:42 PM
Dec 2019

Velshi showed it.

She’s not giving the Republicans anything they can use. They’re reduced to having to lie about the Democrats. The truth is on our side.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
23. Look at the bright side
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:58 PM
Dec 2019

it will be a chance for all of the county to see him have one of his "rally" like meltdowns where he goes after everyone and everything and brags about how great he is.

He will need either medication to keep him calm, or medication of some kind to "speed" him up. Either way the whole country will see it, and the odds are it won't be good for him, or the republican Party,

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
29. For some of us who
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 03:57 PM
Dec 2019

recognize what is happening in real time is this,The Speaker is and has been giving our Country free "Civics"lessons in real time.

Trump's Impeachment will never leave him,he is now only one of three documented to History. Only thing left is to try him in the Senate for removal or call him innocent .

Elementary Civics.

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