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Sat Dec 21, 2019, 11:56 AM

Did I just hear Al Franken correctly? About Lindsey?

"Lindsey Graham is a shoplifter. It's a compulsion. I've been with him when he goes into a pottery store and takes things. And he's on tape."

WTF

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Reply Did I just hear Al Franken correctly? About Lindsey? (Original post)
Goodheart Dec 2019 OP
KentuckyWoman Dec 2019 #1
Sugar Smack Dec 2019 #2
JGug1 Dec 2019 #28
ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #36
Sugar Smack Dec 2019 #38
comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #41
Merlot Dec 2019 #80
Me. Dec 2019 #3
TheBlackAdder Dec 2019 #45
Me. Dec 2019 #50
cwydro Dec 2019 #4
Ilsa Dec 2019 #71
jmbar2 Dec 2019 #5
TruckFump Dec 2019 #51
NoMoreRepugs Dec 2019 #6
Kingofalldems Dec 2019 #11
Funtatlaguy Dec 2019 #18
sandensea Dec 2019 #26
wnylib Dec 2019 #7
safeinOhio Dec 2019 #9
wnylib Dec 2019 #29
BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #34
wnylib Dec 2019 #40
rusty fender Dec 2019 #14
wnylib Dec 2019 #30
BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #33
wnylib Dec 2019 #43
malaise Dec 2019 #8
Hekate Dec 2019 #10
cwydro Dec 2019 #13
Hekate Dec 2019 #15
cwydro Dec 2019 #22
jberryhill Dec 2019 #31
cwydro Dec 2019 #46
Goodheart Dec 2019 #59
cwydro Dec 2019 #61
Goodheart Dec 2019 #63
cwydro Dec 2019 #64
Goodheart Dec 2019 #66
Goodheart Dec 2019 #60
cwydro Dec 2019 #65
Goodheart Dec 2019 #67
cwydro Dec 2019 #69
Goodheart Dec 2019 #57
panader0 Dec 2019 #12
Sugar Smack Dec 2019 #16
Sugar Smack Dec 2019 #17
cwydro Dec 2019 #47
Maraya1969 Dec 2019 #21
Sugar Smack Dec 2019 #37
MartyTheGreek Dec 2019 #19
cwydro Dec 2019 #24
Post removed Dec 2019 #32
stopdiggin Dec 2019 #39
cwydro Dec 2019 #48
cwydro Dec 2019 #44
KSNY Dec 2019 #20
Sugar Smack Dec 2019 #54
Time2Breathe70 Dec 2019 #23
TrunKated Dec 2019 #52
Paladin Dec 2019 #25
orangecrush Dec 2019 #27
BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #35
Polybius Dec 2019 #42
scipan Dec 2019 #49
Goodheart Dec 2019 #62
cwydro Dec 2019 #70
DFW Dec 2019 #53
Polybius Dec 2019 #74
DFW Dec 2019 #75
Duppers Dec 2019 #81
Polybius Dec 2019 #82
Sugar Smack Dec 2019 #55
Goodheart Dec 2019 #56
Sugar Smack Dec 2019 #58
Kingofalldems Dec 2019 #68
Ilsa Dec 2019 #72
Steelrolled Dec 2019 #77
OnDoutside Dec 2019 #73
Bayard Dec 2019 #76
Rollo Dec 2019 #79
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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 11:57 AM

1. True or not it's funny as hell.

Franken hasn't lost his touch.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 12:03 PM

2. That caught me totally by surprise!

Like you said, true or not, it's funny as hell. Great delivery.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:16 PM

28. True Or Not

Franken cannot be making statements like that if they aren't true. He would find himself in court.

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Response to JGug1 (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:38 PM

36. Welcome back!

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Response to JGug1 (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 03:06 PM

38. Within the context that *comedy* has been his bread & butter,

I would also expect him to say such things. He can have a dry sense of humor. And he's famous for it.

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Response to JGug1 (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 03:38 PM

41. I don't think Lindsey is going to sue him...

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Response to JGug1 (Reply #28)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:24 PM

80. People make untrue statements about public figures all the time

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 12:53 PM

3. Never In A Million Tears Would I Have Guessed That

I was thinking, like a lot of people I'd guess, that it had something to do with sex. This needs to be spread around.

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Response to Me. (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 04:03 PM

45. Lindsey taking pottery and tchotchkes wouldn't surprise me, it sounds too plausible.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #45)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 04:50 PM

50. Nothing On Google About It

so we'll see. But would be so delicious...yes?

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 12:56 PM

4. Where was he when he said this?

Is there a link?

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Response to cwydro (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 07:25 PM

71. His radio show or podcast. Spoke of him taking pottery.

He was asked what trump has on LG. AF said LG is a shoplifter. Said they would be out and he'd lift a piece of nice pottery or a dish or something.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:03 PM

5. be wary of that story

Just did a quick search on it - there was a woman of the same name arrested for shoplifting. If it ain't true, don't pass it on.

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 05:26 PM

51. Yep, in Cleveland, OH, I think. EOM

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:05 PM

6. "And he's on tape" is the key phrase here.

We may not be talking about shoplifting in a pottery store.

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Response to NoMoreRepugs (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:31 PM

11. BOOM!

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Response to NoMoreRepugs (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:48 PM

18. Adult Book Store maybe? D battery 🔋 toys ?

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:12 PM

26. His favorite

To each his own.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:21 PM

7. 3 questions about this statement from Franken.

1. When would Al Franken and Lindsey Graham have gone shopping together?

2. If true, who would have paid people to destroy the tapes or give them to Graham and how much?

3. Does Franken have insurance to cover slander charges or does he have evidence to back up his claim?

If this is true, it could be used to bring Graham down. Dirty politics, but I'm sure the R's would do that about s Dem.' OTOH, he would only be replaced by someone just as vile.

I'd want to see evidence befire taking this at face value and would not repeat it without evidence.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:26 PM

9. No longer a Senator, now a comedian.

It's a joke.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:16 PM

29. I know he's a comedian. But a little care is

necessary in what even a comedian says and how he says it. There"s no context in the OP.

If it's an obvious joke in tone and context, no problem. But in print here with no context, it's open to being taken at face value.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #29)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:36 PM

34. Um no it's not. Not with public figures.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #34)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 03:20 PM

40. It is very difficult for public figures to

win libel or slander suits but not impossble. The bar is very high due to freedom of speech, but if it is met, a pybluc figure is able to sue and win.

In this case, with Franken and Graham, Graham would probably not pursue a case, or win it if he did pursue it.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:35 PM

14. In today's politics,

can a petty crime take Lindsey down? Perhaps if it was a very expensive item that could make his crime a felony, but otherwise it it appears to be wishful thinking.

I would love this to be so, but shit, if you are a Repuke today, you need to commit a much bigger crime to be taken down and out

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Response to rusty fender (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:22 PM

30. Probably not, unless an opponent used it

mercilessly to ridicule him.

But as this probably did not happen anyway, it's moot.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:35 PM

33. Calm down

Sigh...nobody seems to know the slander laws in this country so here’s a refresher. Graham is a public figure and Franken is satirist. The end.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #33)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 03:56 PM

43. Yes, Franken is a satirist and would probably

win if a lawsuit was filed. Graham would probably not bother to file one.

But, no, public figures are not exempted from filing slander or libel suits. Due to their position and to freedom of speech, it is very difficult for them to win a libel or slander suit. But if the claims in their suit meet the high bar of criteria, they can sue and win.

They have to prove malicious intent on the part of the person they accuse and document losses and/or the loss of the ability to maintain their career due to a proven untruth by the accused. Since comedians use satire, and parody, they have a wide lattitude in what they can say or write. Malicious intent is very hard to establish.

More pertinent to this board is the fact that the OP does not give context or a link. It poses a question in a way that could easily be taken at face value, as happened with some posters who might have believed and repeated the shoplifting story, only to look and feel foolish.

The OP shows us the need for caution and skepticism in responding to and reacting to an OP or other post on face value without context or link.


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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:22 PM

8. Is that what the Con has over him?

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:29 PM

10. Source, please, or self-delete

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Response to Hekate (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:32 PM

13. Fake news seems to be all the rage here today.

I never have seen it this bad on this site.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:41 PM

15. What's the appropriate Alert selection? Because DU is not going to become "them."

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Response to Hekate (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:07 PM

22. I really think we need an alert for fake news.

But otherwise, I guess the “right wing sources” section or the “loony, fringe, conspiracy” section.

Usually they fall into both.

Yes, I really fear we are becoming “them,” and I have to wonder at the intention of those posting this nonsense.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:31 PM

31. Notice how certain people embroider it with additional speculation

 


I’m starting to think it might be organized.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #31)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 04:06 PM

46. Yes, I've noticed.

I think you might be right.

I don’t remember it being this bad in the past.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 06:59 PM

59. Nonsense? I think you should apologize.

It's not "fake news" that Al Franken said it. Al Franken said as much on his radio show this morning.

So, tell me... why did you assume the worst?

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #59)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 07:01 PM

61. It was a joke. And you should present it as such.

Sadly, there are plenty of gullible folks even here.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #61)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 07:03 PM

63. I didn't know it was a joke when I heard it.

Now back off.

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #63)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 07:03 PM

64. Wow, so you believed that crap?

Whoa.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #64)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 07:08 PM

66. Can you even read?

I didn't say I believed it. I didn't say I disbelieved it. I asked if I had heard Al Franken correctly.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 07:00 PM

60. I'll accept your apology now for insinuating that I'm like "them".

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #60)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 07:07 PM

65. That poster was talking about the sudden penchant here for fake shit being posted.

I can’t speak for that poster, but I sure as hell don’t think they owe you an apology.

Your OP was irresponsible and not worthy of DU standards, or at least what I think DU standards are.

Many of our longtime DUers post funny or satiric posts...they use emojis or something to make it clear that’s what it is. Sadly, so may take things at face value.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #65)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 07:10 PM

67. Get this through your head: it's NOT fake news that Al Franken said such a thing.

Nor did I personally accuse, support, or validate that Lindsey Graham is a shoplifter.

I'll ask again: can you even read?

Both you and that poster owe me an apology.

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #67)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 07:12 PM

69. Oh dear.

Settle down now.

And no one owes you an apology.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 06:54 PM

57. Don't tell me what to do.

Al has a radio program. I specifically asked if I had heard Al correctly. I made no accusation against anybody. Just because you feel left out for not having listened doesn't mean I should self-delete.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:31 PM

12. So Al and Lindsey walk into a pottery store together.....

Edit to add: I used to know a compulsive shop lifter. He was a rich kid and
didn't need to steal--it was a thrill thing.
Lindsey needs something to give him a thrill.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:41 PM

16. I think the absurdity of stealing *POTTERY* makes this a joke.

I've been trying to imagine this relatively small man trying to jam crockery and plates as quietly as possible into his pants or jacket. The idea of pottery clattering around on his person, and the suggestion that Lindsey Graham such a compulsive recidivist, just makes it impossible for me to think Al Franken is serious.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:45 PM

17. Also, the whole idea that they'd go pottery shopping together,

more than once.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 04:07 PM

47. Yes, and obviously you have the capacity for critical thinking.

It appears some here simply do not.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:02 PM

21. Yes! It is absurd but I love it!

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #21)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:56 PM

37. That's why I laughed.

Last edited Sat Dec 21, 2019, 05:42 PM - Edit history (1)

Al Franken's been well-known as a comedian.

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Response to MartyTheGreek (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:10 PM

24. Oh yeah, that's just freaking hilarious Panty hose! Oh you're a card, you are

Because of course we ALL know that gay men wear panty hose, amirite?



Sarcasm for those thusly impaired.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #32)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 03:07 PM

39. so your gay friends are OK with "outing" political figures

as humor? Hmmm.

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #39)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 04:13 PM

48. And he's been "hit on by pedophiles." Wtf?

Something off here.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #32)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 03:59 PM

44. Please don't put pedophiles in the same sentence with gay people.

Your use of flamers is interesting.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:55 PM

20. Perhaps Franken is acting "presidential"

by just making up absurd accusations of crimes by those he disagrees with. I think that is the joke.

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Response to KSNY (Reply #20)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 05:45 PM

54. Come to think of it, that also makes sense.

Good angle. "And it's on tape".

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:08 PM

23. been caught stealing!

 

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Response to Time2Breathe70 (Reply #23)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 05:33 PM

52. LOL

Good song

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:11 PM

25. I sincerely hope it's true. (nt)

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:14 PM

27. It's a joke.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:38 PM

35. Wow there are a lot of humor challenged people in this thread

It’s a JOKE people. Calm yourselves FFS. Lindsey’s going to be okay.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #35)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 03:42 PM

42. Probably because it didn't seem like a joke from the OP

I originally thought the person was serious, but it's all good now.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 04:22 PM

49. fake news

I googled and there's nothing about this. Another Lindsey Graham was arrested (or involved) in shoplifting at a Walmart in Cleveland.

doesn't read like a joke to me. Why did you post this?

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Response to scipan (Reply #49)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 07:01 PM

62. "Why did you post this?"

SERIOUSLY?

I was quite specific why I posted it. I wanted to be sure I had heard Al Franken correctly.

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #62)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 07:14 PM

70. But you already said you heard it.

So that’s just a wee bit disingenuous, doncha think?

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 05:34 PM

53. It is typical of Al's dry humor

I'm sure he is just WAITING for Republicans (including Graham) to come trying to skin him alive for this. Who do you think would look sillier if this actually came to a trial? Al or Graham? (Hint, it's not Al, so that should narrow the choice down somewhat).

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Response to DFW (Reply #53)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 03:00 PM

74. This is why I loath dry humor

I never get it, and often at times I think it's serious. Wet humor like 3 Stooges and Austin Powers is the way to go.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #74)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 03:03 PM

75. LOL!!

The Three Stooges, eh?

Suggestion and warning--don't EVER visit England!

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Response to DFW (Reply #75)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:47 PM

81. Seriously.

I learned.

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Response to DFW (Reply #75)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:56 PM

82. Well, they have Benny Hill

As wet as it comes!

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 05:52 PM

55. Hey, Goodheart. Where'd ya hear this again, dear?

Don't be shy.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Reply #55)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 06:51 PM

56. You may not be aware that Al Franken has a Saturday morning Sirius radio show.

That's where he said it.

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #56)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 06:55 PM

58. I wasn't aware of it.

Thanks for the tip, Goodheart.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 07:12 PM

68. Kick and rec for the gatekeepers.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 07:27 PM

72. I'd rather Al Franken and others put this on Facebook to show how vile

Facebook is, like the politician in CA that is running a deep fake of McConnell on fb.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #72)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 03:52 PM

77. I understand the benefits of Facebook to many people

But it is also very toxic, and it feeds bad elements in people. I tuned out a few years ago.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 07:58 PM

73. Wow, amazing how gullible people are !

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 03:46 PM

76. How do you hide pottery upon your person?

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Response to Bayard (Reply #76)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:06 PM

79. In his bra...

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 04:18 PM

78. Well now I'm pictureing Lyndsey G wearing pottery on his head n/t

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