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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:38 AM Dec 2019

Painfully slow hurricanes, deadly heat, and cities without water: What the climate crisis will look

We only have a decade to avoid the worst consequences of climate change.

That's the warning the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) put out last year. But so far, nations are not slashing emissions enough to keep Earth's temperature from rising more than 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels - the threshold established in the Paris climate agreement.

"What we know is that unabated climate change will really transform our world into something that is unrecognizable," Kelly Levin, a senior associate at the World Resources Institute's climate program, told Business Insider.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/painfully-slow-hurricanes-deadly-heat-and-cities-without-water-what-the-climate-crisis-will-look-like-in-the-next-10-years-according-to-experts/ss-BBX01hm?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

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Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
1. Sometime ago I asked DUers what they are doing to prepare to adapt to climate change
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:43 AM
Dec 2019

Didn't get that many responses. i would think that those who take the threat of climate change seriously and who live in hurricane zones or areas that are expected to be flooded for example would have moved already or have well advanced plans on moving in the very near future. But you really don't see that.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
2. I moved to a city built on granite
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:07 AM
Dec 2019

1000 ft above sea level, but I can drive to the beach in 5 hours. Water may be a problem, though. I hope that there will be solar and wind energy so that I can run the air conditioning, maybe using a window unit in one room if necessary.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
7. I'm planning on putting in a rain water collection system this coming year.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:49 AM
Dec 2019

I have enough water on hand to last my wife, dog and I 45 days.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
6. Your chart doesn't say that moving isn't as easy as it used to be.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:47 AM
Dec 2019

All it shows is that fewer people are moving. The second chart shows that the largest reason for a move is housing.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
9. I live in Minnesota, on 1.5 acres of land, 45 min south of Minneapolis
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:53 PM
Dec 2019

I grow huge vegetable gardens, fruit trees and bushes, nut trees and bushes, plant swathes of native prairie flowers and grasses for pollinator habitat, and raise chickens for eggs and meat. Compared to 10 yr ago, the soil is far more fertile and higher in organic matter. I use almost no pesticides or herbicides. I'm not self-sufficient in food production, but I'm a lot better off than most, and have room to improve further.

I replaced our old propane furnace and electric A/C with a high-efficiency propane furnace and electric air-source heat pump. The heat pump is phenomenal, cooling in summer and heating the house down to 10F in winter. We also have a free-standing catalytic wood stove in the living room that I use for heating when it gets below zero. I know a guy locally that keeps me in firewood for a good price. We've gone from burning 600 gallons of propane annually to 300 gallons, in spite of the horrible polar vortex years recently.

I'm on a well, I have my own septic, and I'm in the process of getting insurance to replace my storm-damaged roof. Once that's done, I have quotes for a 7.9 kW solar array with a hybrid inverter and battery bank. That will allow me to be both off-grid, and feed excess electricity back to the grid for extra money. Payback time is 10 yr, on a system that should last 30+ yr with a bit of maintenance.

We're on a paved road, but surrounded by a mix of farmland, woods, and wetlands. There's a year-round stream across the road from us. I'm well-versed on what wild plants are edible, there is plentiful wildlife, and I have enough guns and ammo to last several lifetimes. Hunting or self-defense, they'll work for both situations.

I drive a Prius, and will replace it with a EV once it dies. I can then charge my vehicle from my solar array.

I've spent the past few years getting to know our neighbors better, building friendships. No one is a castle unto themselves, and loners always die first. If things got bad, we all work together, or we all suffer.

I figure that, when the shit really starts to hit the fan in 20 yr, as we push past the 2C warming limit, my daughter will be approaching 30. What I'm doing today, I'm doing for her. She will inherit what I build, and hopefully it will be enough to protect her from the worst of what's coming.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
10. My home is on 3 lots in a small town in a very rural part of Michigan
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 02:13 PM
Dec 2019

I'm working on a number of projects in an effort to enable my adult step-children and the grandchildren, most of whom live within easy walking distance of me, to sustain themselves during times of shortages of food, heating gas, and automobile gas and interruptions of services such as electricity, water, and sewer.

One project I'm working on is converting the entire back yard into a vegetable garden with raised beds and raised rows and an orchard with cherry, peach, pear and apple trees along with a row of raspberry plants. Another project is to build a waterless composting toilet in the basement. I have almost all the materials needed for that task. Just need the time to do it. I've learned to make my own sauerkraut and hot to pressure can foods.

Some of the things I'm doing I've posted about in the Frugal and Energy Efficient Living Group.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
11. I've spent 15 years coming to terms with my own death
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 02:38 PM
Dec 2019

and how to bring it about.

No kids, retired, body breaking down, few friends, no financial or other resources, health issues with heart and lungs that will be lethal shortly after my region collapses. I am convinced that collective humanity won't do anything serious to slow down the climate juggernaut. Personal prep buys one very little extra time, and all of it will be spent in worsening circumstances. It's enough to make a thoughtful person quite depressed.

So until the wave function collapses I'm going to enjoy living as much as possible, in as many ways as possible,and then exit as quietly and gracefully as possible.

No regrets.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
12. The effects of climate change will not be uniform around the world
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 03:15 PM
Dec 2019

Some areas may become more suitable for human habitation. Where I live, the latest projections are that there will be an increase in precipitation, hotter summers and an extended growing season.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
13. Making sure that you're OK won't be as easy as moving
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 04:03 PM
Dec 2019

Because at some point the climate will create the largest mass climate refugee movement in history and guess where all those billions of people will want to move to.

Years ago there was a climate change study done by climate research scientists in UC Berkeley and they predicted the fires in California, which weren’t a problem then, would turn the forest land into the scrub dessert like Southern California. People living there will end up having to leave and move to the California Coast which, because it gets the cooling winds of the Pacific, will remain relatively the same. The coast in California is already very crowded. People inland will be moving to the coast. So will people all over the Western States.

The big problem, the one that might end us will be the billions of refugees all over the world, included will be places that have never had that problem before, like all the developed industrialized countries.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
5. You won't hear the reTHUGS talking about eugenics (basically, killing people to "improve" society)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:14 AM
Dec 2019

but that's certainly their agenda and they're showing it to everybody who's willing to pay attention. It's time for some serous push-back.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
14. And millions will move there when they can no
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 04:07 PM
Dec 2019

longer live where they are now. The world will become a world of billions of climate change refugees.

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