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Mon Dec 23, 2019, 11:20 PM

Will the United States Lose the Universe?

The United States is about to lose the universe.

It wouldn’t be quite the same as, say, losing China to communism in the 1940s. No hostile ideologies or forces are involved. But much is at stake: American intellectual, technical and economic might, cultural pedigree and the cosmic bragging rights that have been our nation’s for the last century.

In 1917, the 100-inch Hooker telescope went into operation on Mount Wilson in California, and Edwin Hubble eventually used it to discover that the universe is expanding. Until very recently, the mightiest telescopes on Earth have been on American mountaintops like Palomar, Kitt Peak and Mauna Kea. They revealed the Big Bang, black holes and quasars.

But no more. In 2025 the European Southern Observatory, a multinational treaty organization akin to CERN but looking outward instead of inward, will invite the first light into a telescope that will dwarf all others. The European Extremely Large Telescope on Cerro Paranal in Chile will have a primary light-gathering mirror 39 meters in diameter, making it 13 times more powerful than any telescope now working and more sharp-eyed than the iconic Hubble Space Telescope.

The European goliath will be able to see the glow of planets orbiting other stars and peer into the black hearts of faraway galaxies. Who knows what else it might bring into view.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/23/science/telescopes-magellan-hawaii-astronomy.html

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Zorro Dec 2019 OP
Lars39 Dec 2019 #1
3Hotdogs Dec 2019 #2
world wide wally Dec 2019 #3
PJMcK Dec 2019 #4
lastlib Dec 2019 #5
Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #8
RestoreAmerica2020 Dec 2019 #6
yonder Dec 2019 #7

Response to Zorro (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 11:21 PM

1. Furthering our brain drain.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2019, 12:10 AM

2. What else might come into view?

Emperor Ming,The Merciless of the planet, Mongo.

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Tue Dec 24, 2019, 12:36 AM

3. I guess that's why we need a Space Force.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

4. The lesson is to collaborate

There's no reason to try to make scientific discoveries nation by nation. Scientists should work together as they do at the Large Hadron Super Collider.

American scientists should be collaborators with the ESO organization.

Why not? Science really doesn't have national borders since facts are facts.

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 24, 2019, 01:07 AM

5. "Facts are facts"? I'm guessing YOU won't be getting a job w/ trump admin....!

I think it started with rawny rayguns, killing the semiconducting supercollider in the 1980s.

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 24, 2019, 02:49 AM

8. please prove that the LHC did NOT destroy the universe

Some info that may help, although, of course it doesn't exist since the LHC destroyed everything when it first fired up and therefore you're not really reading this because I don't really exist to be typing it and we're all just the nightmare of some n-dimensional caterpillar somewhere waiting to become a universe:

https://archive.org/details/LargeHadronCollider_201902

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2019, 02:11 AM

6. Fascinating post! Thanks. Behind paywall so ill have to research other resources to learn more.

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Tue Dec 24, 2019, 02:31 AM

7. As a kid I was fascinated by the mighty 200 inch Palomar telescope.

Now there's one with almost 60 times the light gathering power of it. Maybe more, if you include modern day digital adjustments.

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