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Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:38 PM

Proud Liberal Dem (21,942 posts)

*How* is Trump a "Good President"?

To hear some Trump supporters and sycophants tell it, Trump is one of the best Presidents this country has ever had since Abe Lincoln and I hear them on Facebook and Social Media making it sound like he's the second coming and I can't figure out why other than cult-like devotion to him for some reason. He's never freed an enslaved or oppressed class of people (and is actually doing quite the opposite), he's never helped win a World War, and whatever you think of how "good" the economy supposedly is, it's hard for me to pinpoint anything *he* has personally done in order to help it (and has actually done quite a lot to harm certain segments of the economy). I'm sure that most Trumpers are just ecstatic that he's nursing their grievances against minorities, LGBTQ persons, women, et. al and actively working to put us "in our place", but, objectively speaking IMHO, that makes him the exact opposite of a "good" President and, certainly, one of the truly historic ones.

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Reply *How* is Trump a "Good President"? (Original post)
 Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 OP
LineReply It just boggles my mind
 Ohiogal Dec 2019 #1
LineLineReply I don't even agree that we look "strong"
 Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 #7
LineReply As far as his fans are concerned
 Bettie Dec 2019 #2
LineReply interesting
 handmade34 Dec 2019 #3
LineReply He's not a good president - he's a partisan president.
 kentuck Dec 2019 #4
LineLineReply excellent analysis
 handmade34 Dec 2019 #5
LineLineReply If you look at our country like a human body
 Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 #8
LineLineLineReply I have little doubt but that it is a virus.
 kentuck Dec 2019 #10
LineReply It's all a matter of perspective. For the reTHUGS and tRUMP cultists tRUMP is "good" since he'll
 abqtommy Dec 2019 #6
LineReply Repeat a lie over and over and a segment of the populous
 redstateblues Dec 2019 #9
LineReply Trump is crude, rude and lewd, the cartoon character
 procon Dec 2019 #11
LineNew Reply Well, they worshipped Ronald Reagan, too.
 TrishaJ Dec 2019 #12
LineNew Reply Yeah, legislatively he's done nothing except give us a tax cut for the rich, and
 ooky Dec 2019 #13
LineLineNew Reply Agreed. But he just rode the coat tails of McConnel and Ryan
 JDC Dec 2019 #15
LineLineLineNew Reply Yup.
 ooky Dec 2019 #16
LineNew Reply For every vile deed he does causing disgust,
 Baked Potato Dec 2019 #14
LineLineNew Reply They thrive on hatred.
 Initech Dec 2019 #19
LineNew Reply Smaller body count than W Bush
 Sewa Dec 2019 #17
LineLineNew Reply I'm fairly sure the MAGATS don't care about that
 Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 #20
LineNew Reply Message auto-removed
 Name removed Dec 2019 #18
LineNew Reply Because he triggers the libs (us). That's it.
 ArtTownsend Dec 2019 #21

Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:44 PM

Star Member Ohiogal (22,211 posts)

1. It just boggles my mind

That his cult defends him by saying he has made us respectable again in the eyes of the rest of the world! After that pussy ass Obama went around on his world wide apology tour!

I guess in their tainted world view, strength means bigotry, ignorance, chest thumping and insults.

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Thu Dec 26, 2019, 03:20 PM

Proud Liberal Dem (21,942 posts)

7. I don't even agree that we look "strong"

Trump's yanking us out of every treaty that's not nailed down and pissing on and pissing off every single ally we've ever had while cozying up to strongmen like Kim Jong Un and Putin and Assad. He's hollowed out our State Department and driving out good people out of the Pentagon. He's made us weaker, not stronger AND less respected in the eyes of most of the rest of the world. If Putin wanted an American puppet as President to make us weaker, he could not have done better than Trump IMHO

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:48 PM

Star Member Bettie (12,527 posts)

2. As far as his fans are concerned

he's a "good" president because he consistently denigrates everyone they hate and he is actively pursuing cruelty in nearly everything he does.

That's what they enjoy, they love the hate and the viciousness.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:51 PM

Star Member handmade34 (21,374 posts)

3. interesting

in Quora this question was asked and a self-described non-partisan (don't believe it for a minute though) man answered a similar question... not trying to advertise trump talking points but this is the type of thing they are saying... really quite delusional but many believe it...

What has President Trump done that is good for America?

answer: the answer is simple for me, Donald J. Trump kept Hillary Clinton out of the White House in 2016, and hopefully out of American politics and public office for good. Not only was this good for America in my opinion, Trump has saved America from being sold out to the highest bidder. If Trump is impeached and even removed from office in 2020, months before the next presidential election, he will be still be known as the non-politician that beat Hillary Clinton.


another...

What has President Trump done that is good for America?

answer: Rush Limbaugh said of Obama, “I hope he fails” precisely because his plan was to ruin the United States. He divided us by class, race, gender, and more. He doubled our debt and downgraded our credit. He weakened our military and strengthened and empowered our enemies while dissing our allies. He brought so much regulation, tax, and fines upon the business community that corporations were leaving in droves. Unemployment numbers went down but only because so many were removed from the list. He was putting Americans out of work. The number of Americans out of work was abysmal.
Trump has improved the economy, strengthened our borders, strengthened our military, brought morale way up in law enforcement and military, lowered employment rates by putting Americans back to work, put coal and oil back on track…
Unemployment is down to a 17 year low in the black community.
ISIS was NOTHING, a tiny nothing in the Middle East that almost no one had heard of… until Obama became president. Trump is reversing what Obama did and fighting ISIS. And he’s winning.

He’s given us a great tax plan that lowers the burden of taxes on the people, and liberals claim it only helps the rich because the poor don’t get any tax break. While the poor don’t pay taxes, and the lower brackets got more deductible income, libs still claim it’s an evil plan. You can’t believe what libs say. Liberalism is based on deceit, and no matter how much good you do, they’ll still claim it hurts people.
He gave us a great infrastructure plan that will save money and time....


much more at site

https://www.quora.com/What-has-President-Trump-done-that-is-good-for-America

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:55 PM

kentuck (104,041 posts)

4. He's not a good president - he's a partisan president.

He has divided the nation into partisan and cultural divisions. That may make him popular amongst a certain segment of our population but it does not translate into whether or not he is a good president. In my opinion, he's toxic for our country.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 02:59 PM

Star Member handmade34 (21,374 posts)

5. excellent analysis

of course he is not a good President for the Country

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Response to kentuck (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 03:23 PM

Proud Liberal Dem (21,942 posts)

8. If you look at our country like a human body

It would be bedridden and close to death after having vomited its lungs out.

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Thu Dec 26, 2019, 03:40 PM

kentuck (104,041 posts)

10. I have little doubt but that it is a virus.

Of some sort?

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 03:08 PM

Star Member abqtommy (12,887 posts)

6. It's all a matter of perspective. For the reTHUGS and tRUMP cultists tRUMP is "good" since he'll

sign any horrible legislation that's put in front of him while he caters to every evil whim that is
whispered in his ear. For the rest of us Americans, he's not so "good" is he? Besides having a valid
copy of The Constitution handy, it's a good idea to have a reliable dictionary, too, because language
matters after all.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 03:29 PM

Star Member redstateblues (10,503 posts)

9. Repeat a lie over and over and a segment of the populous

Will believe it

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Thu Dec 26, 2019, 04:27 PM

procon (15,805 posts)

11. Trump is crude, rude and lewd, the cartoon character

for everyone who has ever felt stupid, ill-mannered or impotent. He is the blow-up doll for anyone who has ever been chastised, criticized, and humiliated. He is the gold plated idol of the inadequate buffoons and loud mouthed charlatans who have passed through life by dumb luck, lies and chicanery.

Trump personifies the vision of a comic book super hero that the rightwing masses holds dear. Trump will assume whatever role is required to maintain that image.

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Thu Dec 26, 2019, 04:31 PM

Star Member TrishaJ (704 posts)

12. Well, they worshipped Ronald Reagan, too.

They thought he was the greatest President ever at the time. Go figure.

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Thu Dec 26, 2019, 05:05 PM

Star Member ooky (6,785 posts)

13. Yeah, legislatively he's done nothing except give us a tax cut for the rich, and

run the budget deficit back up to a trillion dollars, and he's made us all less safe by undoing regulations that were meant to help protect us. I 'm not even going to go into all the horrible shit he's done. But Fox News and other right wing propaganda outlets just go on lying about it, and their audience won't listen to anything except these lying sacks of shit. So they live in an alternative world from the rest of us, accepting all the lies they hear as facts.

The real question is "how did so many people become so vulnerable to believing in and actually living all these lies"? And, how do we get this turned around and then make sure it can never happen again?

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Response to ooky (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 11:04 PM

Star Member JDC (8,594 posts)

15. Agreed. But he just rode the coat tails of McConnel and Ryan

As they steamrolled that BS cut through.

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Thu Dec 26, 2019, 11:16 PM

Star Member ooky (6,785 posts)

16. Yup.

He's incapable of doing anything on his own.

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Thu Dec 26, 2019, 05:52 PM

Star Member Baked Potato (5,371 posts)

14. For every vile deed he does causing disgust,

there is an equal and opposite reaction on the right. His position and power allows him to do things they want and crave. He satiates their lust for hate and revenge.

They live through him. They are deeply unhappy, he is deeply unhappy.

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Response to Baked Potato (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 26, 2019, 11:44 PM

Initech (90,458 posts)

19. They thrive on hatred.

That's why Trump and his supporters are so angry and unhappy all the time. They're fed a steady media diet of 24/7 fear and hatred, and hate begats hate. And they don't know why they're angry either, they just accept that they are. It's a never ending cycle of misery.

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Thu Dec 26, 2019, 11:18 PM

Sewa (851 posts)

17. Smaller body count than W Bush

is one good thing. People would be shocked if they knew the true number of death caused by the W regime. That’s probably why there isn’t an accurate count.

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Fri Dec 27, 2019, 09:25 AM

Proud Liberal Dem (21,942 posts)

20. I'm fairly sure the MAGATS don't care about that

but let us never forget the stain GWB left on our country.

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Fri Dec 27, 2019, 08:33 PM

ArtTownsend (439 posts)

21. Because he triggers the libs (us). That's it.

 

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