Holiday Bombshell As Support For Removing Trump Skyrockets

[applegrove]

BY JASON EASLEY at PoliticusUSA

Holiday Bombshell As Support For Removing Trump Skyrockets

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/12/26/holiday-bombshell-as-support-for-removing-trump-skyrockets.html

"SNIP.....

A new MSN poll has found that national support for removing Donald Trump from office has hit a record high of 55% with the American people.

Via The Independent:

Fifty-five per cent of those asked said they were in favour of the US president’s conviction by the Senate, a figure which has shot up from 48 per cent the week before.

Meanwhile, the number of people against Mr Trump’s removal has dropped to an all-time low, according to the MSN poll.

On Christmas Day, 40 per cent were opposed to the Senate voting to convict the president, who has been impeached over his dealings with Ukraine and an alleged subsequent attempt to obstruct congress.

The gap between the two views has become much wider since last week, when there was little to divide them (48 per cent in favour of Mr Trump’s removal, 47 per cent against).

......SNIP"

[PSPS]

1. "The gap between the two views has become much wider since last week" - the media will fix that!

To sell ads, the media has to have a horse race. Expect a flurry of "polls" that get it back to the desired 50/50.

[Bev54]

17. I agree

It was a CNN poll that had the figures so close and was a complete outlier. They like to create their own drama for reporting, even their own pundits did not agree with the poll.

[Johnny2X2X]

2. This is a massive turn

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/public-support-for-trump-impeachment-at-all-time-high-poll/vp-BBYmrup

This is going to be decided by the polls. If this approaches 60%, the Republicans in the Senate will start to flip.

[Takket]

19. this is why the rethugs need the "no witnesses" sham trial so badly.

[Johnny2X2X]

24. Pelosi played this perfectly.

She had to know that over the Holidays and into January the polls would start to swing this way. She can let them wait while this builds against Trump.

[regnaD kciN]

28. I'm not sure 60%+ will do it...

...unless it starts topping that number in deep-red states — and, even then, I doubt it would make a difference until the primary filing deadline has passed, so GOP senators no longer have to worry about a challenge from a Trumpian true believer.

[wnylib]

30. Not sure that 60% would make them flip.

This poll doesn't break down the results by party. I would bet that support for removal among Pubs is very low. Senators in red states will vote with thei constituency.

Besides, we don't know what 'evidence' the Senate will present from Rudy's dirt gathering trips. Will the spin presentation at trial be good enough to sway opinion toward Trump?

[calimary]

49. Good. People in the red states: START CALLING YOUR REPS!

Senate, AND House! And at your state Capitols, too.

As my kid used to holler to the crowd at the start of his band’s set:
“MAKE SOME NOISE!!!”

[RDANGELO]

3. Holding back the articles of impeachment has put the spotlight on the fact

that Trump is blocking material witnesses. Common sense says that he is hiding something. It's that simple.

[KPN]

20. Yup. Not that common sense shouldn't have

told those folks that already.

[lastlib]

36. If tRumpers could be reasoned with, they wouldn't be tRumpers.

Common sense goes flat-line in that constituency.

[MyOwnPeace]

40. "Common sense?"

"We don't need no common sense!"

[Loki Liesmith]

4. It's probably an outlier

Average the polls folks. Individual polls aren’t very meaningful.

[Mc Mike]

5. I'd advise him to make as many high profile public appearances in front of massive unscreened

crowds of Americans as possible.

Sure to work and turn the tide for team tRumpf.

[Vinca]

6. If they were ever allowed to hear the withheld witnesses it would be far higher than that.

[Wounded Bear]

7. Bit of a hyperbolic headline...

I wish they wouldn't do shit like that. It's like the stock market, it wiggles a couple percent and all of a sudden it's a "huge shift."

Yeah, it went up 2-3%, hardly out of the MOE yet.

Nice to see, but not something to get all hyped up about. Get back to me when it tops 60%.

[DangerousRhythm]

22. That's how I felt.

Every time I see this website linked I wonder about the legitimacy of the headlines and what the sourcing is. I hate hitting up clickbait sites that basically regurgitate someone else’s reporting for ad revenue and sell your info.

But hey, I’m all in favor of a small upswing in support for removal.

[ritapria]

23. Morning Consult Poll published 6 days ago

Had it 52% for Impeachment and Removal , just 43% opposed

[nilram]

25. And what's the percentage in states with red senators?

That’s where the rubber hits the road.

[Wounded Bear]

33. That's an important consideration...

unfortunately, impeachment owes more to the electoral college than to the popular vote. You don't often see a breakdown by states.

[nilram]

41. Removal depends on the votes of senators,

not the electoral college. And it’s the red senators who need the most encouragement (aka poll numbers). So, yeah, that’s what makes it unfortunate that we don’t get the poll breakdowns by state—though I’m sure they’re out there.

[Wounded Bear]

43. That's what I'm saying...

not that the EC casts the votes, but that the red state senators have to be our targets. It's like the EC not voted on by them.

[spanone]

8. K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[erlewyne]

9. The not counted

Do not answer phone calls. My wife answered a poll back in Gore days and
disappeared from the registered voters list. She could not vote. I do not answer
calls everyday that I do not recognize. We Democrats know who we are
not voting for ... fuck the polls.

This Poll shit is something I ignore just as I ignore the debates and mass media.
I am voting Democratic but not for Biden (in the primaries, he is one of my favorites
though).

Who needs debates when we have DU?

[Igel]

38. It's an online poll.

And the numbers are taken and weighted, which is standard, but in an attempt to model the likely voters for fall 2020.

[erlewyne]

39. Thank you - Thank you very much!

Yeah, I did miss that. But I do not participate in online polls either.
You did help me though.

I am convinced that all we have to do is vote and I have confidence
in the voters, all of us, this time around.

And I always stand to be corrected.

[Turbineguy]

10. Nancy Pelosi

is letting this simmer until tender.

In the mean time some nice ingredients get added.

[Stuart G]

11. I agree, and Mr Trump will also add some ingredients.

[applegrove]

13. She's getting creative. GOP has been doing that by skirting laws. Democrats

can do that to their benefit too. The only difference is that the Democrats will not break the law when they do it.

[CatWoman]

12. K; R

[Uncle Joe]

14. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread applegrove.

[applegrove]

15. De rien Oncle Joe!

[AtheistCrusader]

16. Families had a chance to talk openly over the holidays without FOX NEWS interrupting.

[JudyM]

46. Yes, and many also had a chance to catch up on the news they may not have been keeping up with.

[Rollerman]

18. Attacking the Late Rep John Dingell

Might have been the last straw for those on the fence.

[Wounded Bear]

34. Certainly could mean a lot in Michigan...

probably not so much in the other battleground states.

[malaise]

21. This is huge

Rec

Lock him up!

[lindysalsagal]

26. The impeachment was necessary to move the needle.

I believed that from the start. Amen and Halleluia.

Remember that losing trust is always permanent: it doesn't return. This will either hold or continue to widen.

[AdamGG]

27. The great thing about holding the impeachment in the House is that Trump will keep being Trump

And his daily behavior/corruption is bound to sway more people. I wish the broadcast networks would just keep playing the House impeachment hearing testimony on a loop.

[Grasswire2]

29. we knew this was going to happen as more and more evidence is released...

....and that's why McConnell wants to rush it through.

[VOX]

31. Keep punching! Make most Americans associate that asshole with insanity, vengefulness & lawlessness.

Throw the goddamned TRUTH at the masses, over and over, until enough get so sick of Trump they’ll vote him out!

[YOHABLO]

32. I go over to Five Thirty Eight and check out the polling.

I can't rely on one source.

[warmfeet]

35. Good.

Next step is to toss this garbage into the dustbin.

The judicial system can deal with his sorry orange ass after that.

[LiberalLovinLug]

37. Sorry, but I'm still flabergasted that its only barely above 50%.

It indicates that only Democrats are in favor of it. Thus nothing has changed.

Trump by now should be down to his hard core 20% - 30% nonredemptive deplorables.

[cwydro]

45. Gotta agree.

Mind boggling.

[blakstoneranger]

42. MSN Polls are Meaningless!

Look, to see this knucklehead convicted would truly make my day; however, the polls taken on trump flip from week to week depending on where the poll comes from and how it was constructed, who got asked the questions and what kind of questions were asked, etc. This info changes depending on the "expected" result. Trump has a consulting firm that does its own polling, this is why he always says his numbers are "through the roof", but the media NEVER asks him where he gets his numbers from (they don't wanna know). The polls are meaningless. The "where's bigfoot Poll" shows support for trump increasing by 10% with a margin of error of +-10%. The A's for everybody university poll shows trump's approval rating at 45%, etc. Look, forget impeachment, forget the senate trial, WE HAVE TO VOTE THIS MANIAC OUT OF OFFICE!!! VOTE, VOTE VOTE. SAVE AMERICA, VOTE TRUMP OUT OF OFFICE!!!

[kimbutgar]

44. I heard on msnbc last night that his approval rating is up 2 points to 44.5%

How can that be with this new poll saying 55% want him removed.

All these polls are just trying to influence our thinking. Gang mentality bs.

[Tennessee Hillbilly]

47. Latest Poll Update shows ....

The latest update to the MSN poll (today) shows 54% are for Trump's removal.

But this is less than it was on Oct. 6, when it was 55%.

So the recent gains have merely brought it back up to where it was in early October.

[iscooterliberally]

48. I just emailed my two senators about impeachment. I don't think it will do much good though.

I'm in FL so I have Scott and Rubio. Both of their responses were completely partisan and ignored the facts.

[calimary]

50. Doesn't matter. Keep bothering them about it.

And try to get your friends to do likewise.

Florida DUers, that means YOU, TOO!!!

Just DO it. Make a call. Call local or regional or their Washington DC offices. I’ve found it’s much easier to get through at the district offices, though.

Or send a postcard! Or a paper letter. Or a fax. SOMETHING that is legitimate undeniable constituent evidence. “Hmmm... um... I’m getting a lot of shit about this from my constituents... um... they’re keeping track... and I’ve got an election coming up... um... wanna keep my job... “

WORK IT! And make it work for you - and for ALL of us!

[underpants]

51. I can't wait to hear Chuck Todd explain how this is bad for the Democrats

https://gfycat.com/amp/rigidconcretehatchetfish-chuck-todd-hulu-special-trimuph-the-insult-comedian-dog-gif

[sdfernando]

52. Mind the gap! /nt