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marble falls

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Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:28 PM Dec 2019

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Is the animosity specific to these neighborhoods? madville Dec 2019 #1
They've been given permission by our "leaders". Whether there is friction ... marble falls Dec 2019 #2
There is conflict: dalton99a Dec 2019 #3
Like I said, friction or not the violence is unacceptable ... marble falls Dec 2019 #5
Was just reading about the Crown Heights Riot in 1991 madville Dec 2019 #6
If given the chance duforsure Dec 2019 #4

madville

(7,403 posts)
1. Is the animosity specific to these neighborhoods?
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:41 PM
Dec 2019

Most of the perpetrators in these attacks the last few weeks have been Black. Has there always been friction between the Black and Hasidic Jewish communities in these neighborhoods? What is causing this most recent boil over or is it just now getting more national attention?

I’ve never been to NYC so have no idea about the history in these communities. Could it be a product of gentrification or one group encroaching more into others’ traditional spaces?

marble falls

(56,943 posts)
2. They've been given permission by our "leaders". Whether there is friction ...
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:44 PM
Dec 2019

or not, physical confrontation is way beyond out of line.

dalton99a

(81,371 posts)
3. There is conflict:
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:47 PM
Dec 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/10/nyregion/hasidic-beating-herskovic-patterson.html
Hasidic Man Convicted of Beating Black Student Gets Verdict Overturned
By Alan Feuer
Oct. 10, 2018

When five Orthodox Jewish men were accused of beating — and partially blinding — a young black fashion student four years ago in Brooklyn, it briefly reignited one of New York City’s most incendiary racial divides: the one between the borough’s Hasidic and African-American communities.

The case became even more contentious when the prosecutors suddenly dropped their charges against two of the defendants and let the other two plead guilty to lesser crimes, avoiding time in prison. Only one man, Mayer Herskovic, was ultimately convicted at trial and sentenced to state prison.

But in a sweeping decision issued Wednesday, a state appeals court overturned Mr. Herskovic’s guilty verdict and threw out his indictment, saying there was simply not enough evidence to convict him, or to charge him in the first place.

marble falls

(56,943 posts)
5. Like I said, friction or not the violence is unacceptable ...
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:56 PM
Dec 2019

not to diminish the violence perpetrated on the student, much more violence has been visited on Jewish victims by others than perpetrated by Jewish attackers on others.

Nobody "has it coming".

madville

(7,403 posts)
6. Was just reading about the Crown Heights Riot in 1991
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 01:16 PM
Dec 2019

Didn’t know there was such a history between the Black and Jewish communities in that area.

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
4. If given the chance
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 12:47 PM
Dec 2019

Trump will go after more religions and minorities, hurting them any way he can.

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