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PCIntern

(25,532 posts)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:22 PM Dec 2019

I was raised by my unabashedly liberal parents

who stated most explicitly that treason, spying against our country, attempting to destroy the established and constitutionally ratified norms of the country, to advocate the overthrow of the government by force or criminal action were extremely heinous crimes which merited the severest of punishments.

My mother who worked in the Philadelphia Navy Yard during WWII never uttered a word about her work as she signed a statement when hired that she would not do so for the rest of her life. My father was a four year combat veteran of the Pacific Theater and never disparaged the notion of the military even though he vehemently opposed the War in Southeast Asia. He,as I have written here before, understood the pattern of history unlike anyone I have ever met. My parents, each brilliant in his and her own way, respected the frameworks of our civilization and attempted to effect change through legitimate means.

They would have regarded the seditious, traitorous behavior of these miscreants as subhuman. On this New Years Eve, I miss them terribly.

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I was raised by my unabashedly liberal parents (Original Post) PCIntern Dec 2019 OP
There are many who are not with us anymore Ohiogal Dec 2019 #1
I know! It's so shameful. Was your dad in WW2? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #2
Yes he was PCIntern Dec 2019 #4
Wow. I am now wondering if they flew people home Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #13
Not a day passes that I don't miss my liberal parents and think appalachiablue Dec 2019 #3
I think the same thing bdamomma Dec 2019 #11
I have less good news in my family. AtheistCrusader Dec 2019 #5
But our Republican friends, for all their flag-waving, ALWAYS place party above country sandensea Dec 2019 #6
My parents were liberal Democrats also. lkinwi Dec 2019 #7
Are we long lost brothers and or sisters? Your description of your parents could be my parents. usaf-vet Dec 2019 #8
Wow. PCIntern Dec 2019 #15
I'm beginning to think a bunch of us here were separated at birth. WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2019 #20
My Dad was an airplane mechanic in N. Africa for the better part of 4 years. Delmette2.0 Dec 2019 #9
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2019 #10
No question. PCIntern Dec 2019 #12
I miss my liberal mother terribly. TNNurse Dec 2019 #14
You are fortunate to have been raised by liberals! MLAA Dec 2019 #16
Some people are lucky to have one good parent...you hit the jackpot!❤ Karadeniz Dec 2019 #17
I can relate. DownriverDem Dec 2019 #18
If anything I'm glad my grandparents didn't live long enough 47of74 Dec 2019 #19
The "orange fornicate"! calimary Jan 2020 #21
HAPPY 2020! usaf-vet Jan 2020 #22
Thank you, PCIntern! Kid Berwyn Jan 2020 #23

Ohiogal

(31,979 posts)
1. There are many who are not with us anymore
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:09 PM
Dec 2019

from your parents' generation who would be absolutely appalled at what 40% of our country now supports. They were the true patriots, IMO.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
2. I know! It's so shameful. Was your dad in WW2?
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:13 PM
Dec 2019

My dad was around Borneo...Navy supply ship USS Willoughby? Something like that. He is turning 98 on April 1. One of the only good things about dementia...he doesn't know trump.

PCIntern

(25,532 posts)
4. Yes he was
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:25 PM
Dec 2019

Leyte, Philippine recapture, readied for the invasion of Japan. Barely survived the voyage home

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. Wow. I am now wondering if they flew people home
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 06:14 PM
Dec 2019

My dad looked at me at Xmas and said, "Hey, how are you? Are you still working for South Pacific airlines?".

Had to look up Borneo. Not far from where your dad was. It is beautiful there.


appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
3. Not a day passes that I don't miss my liberal parents and think
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:15 PM
Dec 2019

how shocked and disappointed they would be after the sacrifices they and their parents made during the Depression and WWII in particular. Happy New Year and thanks for your sincere post of appreciation today.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
11. I think the same thing
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 03:30 PM
Dec 2019

about my father and his brothers and uncles who served in WW2, they would be so upset and besides themselves that we are going down this deep chasm of uncertainty, it comes down to us really to stop these thugs/criminal enterprise, with Putin at the helm.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
5. I have less good news in my family.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:26 PM
Dec 2019

My parents were Union democrats. So, basically, Republicans on everything except union-specific labor/trade issues. My mom voted for Trump. (Brother too.)

I can't talk sense into them. Best I've got is, this is Washington State so their votes count for nothing on this. (And dad's dead, so one less vote.)

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
6. But our Republican friends, for all their flag-waving, ALWAYS place party above country
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:42 PM
Dec 2019

And their bigotry above all.

Anyone who caters to it, and does so without the least compunction, earns their undying love and loyalty - no matter what else they do.

lkinwi

(1,477 posts)
7. My parents were liberal Democrats also.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 01:44 PM
Dec 2019

One of the last things Mom did was to proudly vote for Hillary before she died. Politics was discussed often as I was growing up, and my brother and I are very happy that we were raised with democratic values. Both parents would be disgusted with tRump and the mess he has made of our country, but our eldest brother, who has passed, was a Republican and would definitely be a rabid MAGA. I guess nothing sunk in with him.

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
8. Are we long lost brothers and or sisters? Your description of your parents could be my parents.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 02:15 PM
Dec 2019

My mom worked in a defense plant and my dad USN WW II was a 'radioman'. Part of what he did is still classified.

I manage to get 90% of his military service record but the 10% is still not available. I even tried getting my congressman to help. Same results.

From the records, I did get he was stationed in a jungle radio station in South America. Intercepting German U-Boat radio communication. When we were fighting in North Africa the Germans sent U-Boats to the South Atlantic to hunt and sinking troopships and supply ships.

After that, he was sent to Washington State USN communication school. To learn Japanese code.

They are both buried in a National Veterans Cemetery near our home town. The spouse of a qualified veteran can be buried next to the loved one.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
20. I'm beginning to think a bunch of us here were separated at birth.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:34 PM
Dec 2019

My dad was at the Navy Yard in Philly about the same time and through the 50's. And even though my parents did become more conservative as they got older, they would be appaled at the bullshit Trump is getting away with.

Delmette2.0

(4,164 posts)
9. My Dad was an airplane mechanic in N. Africa for the better part of 4 years.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 02:23 PM
Dec 2019

For his entire 4 year enlistment he never went home, but sent money to his family on the homestead.

He left two diaries, 95% started out with "another day at the plane". His job was to have that plane in 100% working order for his pilot. First, so the pilot could complete his mission, second so the pilot could come back safe. My Dad would wait until they came back safely. I never saw an entry that his pilot didn't return.

Everyone had a job to do and to do it they did. Even decades after the war he didn't talk about anything specific just the friends he made and missing his family.


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H2O Man

(73,535 posts)
10. Recommended.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 03:22 PM
Dec 2019

Thank you for this.

I frequently think about what my father and grandfather would have to say about current events. My 91-year old uncle -- a WW2 veteran -- often say's that Trump et al are exactly what he fought against in Europe.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
14. I miss my liberal mother terribly.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 06:32 PM
Dec 2019

My father died when I was a child so she was my big influence. I am grateful that she did not live to see what these people have done and are doing to this country. I would have loved for her to have seen Barack Obama and to have voted for him...twice.

I see the results of her influence in myself and my siblings.

It is a mixed feeling for me. This would have broken her heart.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
19. If anything I'm glad my grandparents didn't live long enough
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:19 PM
Dec 2019

to see that orange fornicate steal the election. Especially my grandpa who served in WW 2.

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