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riversedge

(70,051 posts)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 07:15 PM Dec 2019

'The jig is up': Conservative warns Trump officials that courts give them no choice but to testify

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‘The jig is up’: Conservative warns Trump officials that courts give them no choice but to testify


https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/the-jig-is-up-conservative-warns-trump-officials-that-courts-give-them-no-choice-but-to-testify/

Published 4 hours ago on December 31, 2019


On Tuesday, Never Trump conservative columnist Jennifer Rubin blasted senior Trump officials in the Washington Post, warning them that “the jig is up” and they have no legitimate excuse not to testify about the president in the Senate trial.

“On Monday, a federal judge dismissed a case brought by Charles Kupperman, a former deputy national security adviser, asserting an ‘absolute immunity’ to protect him from testifying,” wrote Rubin. “That leaves a ruling by Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson rejecting in scathing terms a similar claim of ‘absolute immunity’ in a case involving former White House counsel Donald McGahn as the final word, for now, on current and former executive branch employees’ testimony.”


Now that the courts have made this decision, Rubin argued, officials like former National Security Adviser John Bolton and White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney must testify in the Senate.
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“Bolton can no longer rely on the Kupperman case, and the relevant precedent is now the McGahn case,” wrote Rubin. “Coupled with the blockbuster New York Times story revealing the behind-the-scenes efforts of senior officials including Bolton to release aid to Ukraine that President Trump illegally withheld to gain leverage and force an announcement from Ukraine of an investigation of former vice president Joe Biden, removal of Bolton’s last excuse (i.e., awaiting a Kupperman ruling) now requires both houses of Congress to proceed to get to the bottom of this.”.....
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'The jig is up': Conservative warns Trump officials that courts give them no choice but to testify (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2019 OP
Hardly jberryhill Dec 2019 #1
The jig is up??? Really???!!!! C_U_L8R Dec 2019 #2
OK, I had to look that one up because I didnt see a racial thing. padfun Dec 2019 #6
Young people may not know it. SCVDem Dec 2019 #8
Yes, really. You may well be way off base with your implication of the phrase's origin Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #10
Thanks.. was going to post that... Happy Hoosier Jan 2020 #11
I had no idea that that word was a negative. Maraya1969 Jan 2020 #13
They will appeal the other district's ruling bitterross Dec 2019 #3
Sounds like a great reason for Nancy Pelosi to wait before sending the articles ooky Jan 2020 #12
Bolton doesn't want to give it up for free, he wants to put it in a tell all book... IMO Baked Potato Dec 2019 #4
Why can't the house subpoena all of them now? rainin Dec 2019 #5
You would think yes TeamPooka Dec 2019 #7
Each subpoena should come with a footnote Danascot Jan 2020 #9
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. Hardly
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 07:22 PM
Dec 2019

“the final word, for now” simply means that the next one can start over at the district court level.

The fact of the matter is that Bolton has not been subpoenaed.

This is the third to-round for this odd notion that dismissal of the Kupperman case somehow requires Bolton to testify.

C_U_L8R

(44,983 posts)
2. The jig is up??? Really???!!!!
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 07:33 PM
Dec 2019

Do Republicans instinctively reach for a horrifically racist term at any occasion?

(on edit; yes there are multiple origins of the phrase but you'd think they'd be slightly aware of the implications, geez)

padfun

(1,786 posts)
6. OK, I had to look that one up because I didnt see a racial thing.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 09:06 PM
Dec 2019

But one site did mention that is was a slang.
Some of us never heard that term in any racial way.
To me, a jig or jigs were used in machine shops.

It might be area specific as I have been in the west my entire life. I never heard that used in any way but tools and in that saying.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
8. Young people may not know it.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 10:05 PM
Dec 2019

Let's hope "N" dies the same death.

Not all connotations of the' jig is up' were bad. Most were gangsters and cops when the plan was blown.

Stinky The Clown

(67,757 posts)
10. Yes, really. You may well be way off base with your implication of the phrase's origin
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jan 2020

For your consideration:

Yes, according to the Facts on File Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins, by Robert Hendrickson, it states that this expression was used during Elizabethan times (mid-to-late 16th century). During these times, the word “jig” became slang for a practical joke or trick. Thus, if “the jig was up,” it meant your trick was found out, or exposed.


https://knowyourphrase.com/jig-is-up
 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
3. They will appeal the other district's ruling
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 07:40 PM
Dec 2019

As they should. The SCOTUS needs to settle this question once and for all.

Let's hope they keep in mind that it will not always be a Republican in the Oval Office. So they actually rule fairly.

ooky

(8,905 posts)
12. Sounds like a great reason for Nancy Pelosi to wait before sending the articles
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 01:36 PM
Jan 2020

of impeachment. Should carry us into next year.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
4. Bolton doesn't want to give it up for free, he wants to put it in a tell all book... IMO
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 07:47 PM
Dec 2019

Wants them bucks for suffering through Dump.

rainin

(3,010 posts)
5. Why can't the house subpoena all of them now?
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 08:58 PM
Dec 2019

Can's relevant committees call them in for oversight purposes?

Danascot

(4,689 posts)
9. Each subpoena should come with a footnote
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 11:28 AM
Jan 2020

reminding the recipient that penalties for defying a subpoena is imprisonment for up to 5 years and/or fines.

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