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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat happens to our billion dollar embassy if US military is forced to leave Iraq?
thanks for nothing, idiot trump
malaise
(268,930 posts)A white elephant in a green zone - that would be perfect
marble falls
(57,077 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)You think they're going to allow the US to stay now?
Igel
(35,300 posts)They might want the US to stay after posturing, and possibly getting a bribe.
To say that every Shi'ite wants to be Iran's toy is probably overstating the facts. Small fry have to make a choice: They can be the minion and pawn of a larger power or they can play off powers to establish some breathing space of their own. If you're well within a large imperialist's sphere of influence that can be hard, unless you can find a larger or at least equally large outside imperialist to assist.
Think S. Korea and China. Poland and Russia. Cuba and the US.
It's highly likely that Iraq no wants to be Iran's plaything than Cuba wanted to be the US's. These things change depending on perceived interests--but the key word there is "perceived". "Perceive" requires the thing being perceived as well as the perceiver; I can't look at you and tell what you're perceiving, that you have to tell me or show me by your actions (which might be deceptive or ambiguous).
Even then, the calculations of the leadership can be skewed by the public or by the differential pressure brought to bear by the putative hegemons. For small fry, things are always in flux as you seek the best possible balance.
I don't know what the Iraqi leadership perceives, their goals, or all the pressures they're under.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Iraq, Iran, Russia, China, North Korea, Turkey, Syria, etc.
Watering hole . . .
dalton99a
(81,451 posts)They're expelling the troops. They're not cutting diplomatic relations
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)dalton99a
(81,451 posts)The host country is responsible for protecting an embassy under international law
It'd be extremely stupid for the Iraqi government to let the mob take over
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)dalton99a
(81,451 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Why WERE THEY THERE? Of course this is a colossal muckup and a huge waste of our taxpayer dollars that we will not get back.
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)we've been their best buddies.
ck4829
(35,045 posts)We really shouldn't be defending it if it's evacuated.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)ck4829
(35,045 posts)There has to be a point though where the value of the lives and money spent on the embassy is "equal to or greater than" it.
If we haven't reached that point already, when will we reach it?
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)We need awareness of that particular one these days, and I agree with your assessment.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)If we are not around then who will be....seems like nobody likes to think about that. But I do and it's gotta be us whether you like it or not.
struggle4progress
(118,278 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)llmart
(15,536 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)As a "Gift" of $450 Million Dollars of U.S. Taxpayers Revenue while Americans are still hungry, homeless, lacking healthcare and gas prices are going up for all.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)Iraq has said it wants US troops to leave, they dont want to break diplomatic relations. So the Embassy would remain, albeit with a greatly enhanced marine security detachment. Marines defending the Embassy would not be included in the troop expulsion, as they are legally on sovereign US soil.
BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)at140
(6,110 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)Hoist the corporate flags of big oil and maybe it won't suffer so many rocket attacks.
Would work particularly well if they put up big "help wanted" signs......
No way in hell would I want to be a U.S. government official in that location......
Igel
(35,300 posts)BP's bigger, and not American. Rosneft, Lukoil, Chinese and other country's companies have a far greater presence there.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)Despite W's and Cheney's wet dreams (and Drumph's, too), we have not dominated their oil resources. I think the Kurds are too smart to let that happen, along with some Shia-controlled political factions.
It is a huge complex mess......
Now I'm curious if Russia and/or China will step in and lend further help to Iran's petro industry after the dust settles.