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Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:51 AM

Santorum asks "why should same sex marriage be allowed". We should say, "Why not?"

"Some men see things as they are and say why? I dream things that never were and say why not?" - Ted Kennedy eulogy for RFK 1968.

Or we could say, "because it is the right thing to do, Senator."

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Reply Santorum asks "why should same sex marriage be allowed". We should say, "Why not?" (Original post)
yellowcanine Jan 2012 OP
LynneSin Jan 2012 #1
yellowcanine Jan 2012 #3
Skinner Jan 2012 #2
Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #4
justiceischeap Jan 2012 #5
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #6
yellowcanine Jan 2012 #10
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #12
maggiesfarmer Jan 2012 #7
Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #8
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #13
EC Jan 2012 #9
yellowcanine Jan 2012 #11
wandy Jan 2012 #14
Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #16
Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #15
ItNerd4life Jan 2012 #17
krispos42 Jan 2012 #18

Response to yellowcanine (Original post)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:53 AM

1. Because what 2 consenting adults decide to do is nobody elses business

If Dick Santorum doesn't like gay marriage then he shouldn't marry a gay man.

Other than that he should mind his own business!

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:57 AM

3. To be fair, there is little danger of Ricky having the opportunity of marrying a gay man.

What gay man would stoop that low?

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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:56 AM

2. Or we could just laugh in his face.

Really, it is well past time for people to embrace gay marriage. Those who still oppose it are ridiculous.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:02 PM

4. Spot on. This is exactly what I ask of others. Laugh in the faces of those politicians

 

who try to sell that soap. Just laugh, long and hard. Right in their faces.

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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:03 PM

5. Santorum asks "why should same sex marriage be allowed". We should say,

"Because 53% of Americans, the majority, agree that it's time to stop oppressing American citizens."

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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:04 PM

6. There's no rational basis for opposition to it IMHO

The only basis that anybody EVER puts forward about why same-sex marriage should be illegal/not allowed is always rooted in religious belief but since we are (theoretically) NOT a theocracy and people in our country are free to practice whatever religion they want (or none at all), religious beliefs are (theoretically) not supposed to form the basis of our public policies. I have yet to hear a sincere, rational reasons for why it would in our country's best interests to deny same-sex couples the right to marry, mostly because I suspect that there are none.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:51 PM

10. Ricky says because it will lead to polygmy. You don't think that is sincere and rational?

Neither do I.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:55 PM

12. Well, I would call it something else

but I probably can't say it here.

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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:05 PM

7. my answer to that question

Because it is in the best interest of society to make policies which encourage long term, monogamous relationships.

Period.

An estimated 5 to 10% of the country engages in same-sex relationships. Marriage with its associated legal, financial, social and religious implications has historically been the best tool to reinforce long term relationships.

In my opinion, opposing same-sex marriage is one step away from endorsing promiscuity (not that there's anything wrong with prmiscuity if its your choice -- I just don't thing the gov't should encourage it).

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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:19 PM

8. I just hate that Obama has the same position as Santorum on this issue.

I like Obama but would like him a lot more if he favored marriage equality.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 01:05 PM

13. I'm disappointed as well

though I suspect it has more to do with "politics" and less personal belief. It took a long time, of course, for (viable) Presidential candidates just to be able to publicly support Civil Unions. Hell, even gays in the military and repealing DADT used to be too hot to touch ever since Clinton got burned back in 1993. It will probably be a little while longer before major-party candidates for public office feel like they can openly support same-sex marriage and, yes, I do believe that it is somewhat cowardly not to be able and willing to stand up for it now, particularly at this point in time when more and more states are moving on from Civil Unions to full marriage equality for same-sex citizens despite ongoing pushback from the right but I believe it will eventually happen. One of the biggest problems for proponents of same-sex marriage is that same-sex marriage is (wrongly IMHO) viewed by the public more as "gay rights" than "human rights".

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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:23 PM

9. And ask him,

why it's any of his business?

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Response to EC (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:52 PM

11. He is worried his wife would bolt for another woman?

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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 01:51 PM

14. An honest question

Do you ever wonder if Santorum has repeated nightmares where he wakes up in a cold fearful sweet, spooning a Blah man named Marcus and sporting a painfull orange speaker of the house?
Just asking.

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Response to wandy (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 02:10 PM

16. I would think that bringing his wife's aborted fetus home to meet his kids

 

is the thing that would give him nightmares.


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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 02:08 PM

15. his response to it is

 

"because for 230 years that has been the law".



It is a bull shit argument but it is the one he uses.



I think if we simply keep hammering on the "equal protection under the law" point we win the argument and anyone who isn't a closed minded bigot can see that.

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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 02:17 PM

17. We should say: 'If you believe in individual rights, then let them have the right to marry'.

This is an individual rights issue and it's what we should be throwing back at them.

Where in the Constitution does it define what marriage is? It doesn't, therefore government has no business getting involved.

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Response to yellowcanine (Original post)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 02:20 PM

18. The essense of freedom is that you can do what isn't expressly forbidden by law...

...and that what is forbidden by law must have clear and concise reasoning behind it.

Gay marriage, among other topics, fails the second part of my statement.

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