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Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:57 PM

Legal Experts Destroy Giuliani's 'Gibberish' Argument To Void Trump Impeachment

Legal Experts Destroy Giuliani's 'Gibberish' Argument To Void Trump Impeachment
Lee Moran
HuffPostJanuary 10, 2020, 5:51 AM CST

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rudy-giuliani-legal-experts-trump-impeachment-115120154.html

Legal experts took President Donald Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani to task on Thursday after he suggested the Supreme Court should rule Trump’s impeachment over the Ukraine scandal as “unconstitutional.”

The former New York mayor argued on Twitter that such a move would “prevent a precedent from forming which would allow the House to overstep its bounds and impeach for policy differences or political leverage.”

“If this impeachment is not declared illegal it would remove the constitutional limitation of crimes on the power to impeach,” Giuliani continued. “It would allow the House to impeach for policy differences or political leverage.”

The Supreme Court should step in and rule this impeachment unconstitutional, to prevent a precedent from forming which would allow the House to overstep its bounds and impeach for policy differences or political leverage.

— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) January 9, 2020

House Democrats have put our constitutional government in grave danger by attempting to rewrite the carefully calibrated separation of powers under our Constitution & usurping powers not granted to the House.

— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) January 9, 2020

It would prevent a future president to raise any challenge to the most illegal, overbroad subpoena from any of the multitude of congressional committees and sub-committees. Anytime Congress disagrees, it could charge abuse of power.

— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) January 9, 2020



Josh Chafetz, a Cornell law professor and expert on impeachment, described Giuliani’s argument as “some quality gibberish.”

“I honestly don’t know whether it would be worse if he believed this was the sort of thing that might happen, or if he was just cynically making it up for ... I dunno, reasons,” Chafetz responded, also challenging Giuliani to “file whatever sort of paperwork you think would be necessary to put this process in motion.”

— Josh Chafetz (@joshchafetz) January 9, 2020

But I tell you what, @RudyGiuliani: You're the president's "lawyer," right? So why don't you file whatever sort of paperwork you think would be necessary to put this process in motion at the Supreme Court.

Be creative! I haven't heard much about the writ of scire facias lately!

— Josh Chafetz (@joshchafetz) January 9, 2020



This is just about as good of a legal argument as everything else Giuliani says.

Back in the world of legal reality, the Supreme Court resoundingly and unanimously concluded in US v Nixon that it had no role to play in impeachments whatsoever. https://t.co/meheUeDsnK

— Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) January 9, 2020

Former federal prosecutors Renato Mariotti and Elie Honig also chimed in:

You’re all talk and you know you’re making crap up. If not, go ahead and bring a lawsuit. Back up your talk. (You won’t because you know any federal court would throw out your suit and find the impeachment legitimate).

— Elie Honig (@eliehonig) January 9, 2020



shorter Rudy: the Supreme Court should rule the Constitution unconstitutional https://t.co/NYti2ouC7U

— Johnny McNulty Is 35 This Year & Can Be President (@JohnnyMcNulty) January 9, 2020




The gross misunderstanding of the most basic Supreme Court jurisdiction and procedure here should really be grounds for disbarment https://t.co/20NiyYoEZf

— Fiddler (@cFidd) January 9, 2020

Impeachment is literally part of the Constitution, you dunce.

— William LeGate 🧢 (@williamlegate) January 9, 2020



Have you ever considered talking with a competent constitutional lawyer before you tweet, Mr. Mayor? https://t.co/zdFciTpHW6

— Alex Howard (@digiphile) January 9, 2020

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marble falls Jan 10 OP
guillaumeb Jan 10 #1
Eliot Rosewater Jan 10 #2
guillaumeb Jan 10 #4
Eliot Rosewater Jan 10 #5
guillaumeb Jan 10 #6
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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:59 PM

1. Trump, and his supporters, live in an alternative universe.

Or so it appears.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:02 PM

2. Actually I bet they have 4 votes at least right now on the SC to do ANY ILLEGAL THING

they want to do...

And how did we get there?

Whining about someone making ONE SPEECH to Wall street or having ONE BAD day with an illness.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:18 PM

4. Yes, the infamous stumble.

While Trump clearly exhibits signs of mental and physical illnesses.

And we also got here because millions could not be bothered to vote in 2010, which leads directly to the present situation regarding the SCOTUS and hundreds of new very conservative Appellate Court appointees.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:20 PM

5. Yes, Obama fixed many things but not EVERYTHING so certain types said fuck that,

we wont support him now.

I know who did that, they are the same ones making noise now about purity.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:22 PM

6. Some of them are, agreed.

Voter apathy, is a critical issue, as is voters ignoring the issues or claiming that they have no interest in politics.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jan 10, 2020, 02:07 PM

3. Rudi G. must have had one too many cocktails, as usual before composing these tweets...

no surprise here...all hot air and no substance ...

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