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Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:08 AM

Trump administration knows how bad things are for 2020. So they are hiding and delaying bad news.

The Trump administration has asked the SCOTUS to delay the case until after the election.

KNOWING that:
The case could have major political implications because the results sought by the Republican states and the Trump administration would cause substantial disruptions. According to estimates from the Urban Institute, around 20 million more Americans would become uninsured because of the elimination of the law’s coverage expansions and protections for Americans with pre-existing health conditions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/upshot/obamacare-lawsuit-delay-sought-trump-republicans.html

Additionally, Secretary of the Treasury is Steven Mnuchin is delaying reporting how much Trump's golf outings have cost the taxpayers since he took office.

The government spent about $96 million on travel by Obama over eight years, according to documents obtained by the conservative group Judicial Watch. A report by the Government Accountability Office, which serves as the congressional watchdog on federal spending, estimated that Trump’s travel cost $13.6 million in just one month in early 2017. That total included the costs of travel for Secret Service and Defense Department personnel and the costs of renting space and operating equipment such as boats and planes. If spending continued at that pace, Trump would have exceeded Obama’s total expenses before the end of his first year in office
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mnuchin-seeks-delay-of-proposed-disclosure-of-secret-service-spending-on-presidential-travel-until-next-year/2020/01/08/8769ea28-30da-11ea-91fd-82d4e04a3fac_story.html

Forbes.com suggests Trump's Golf Trips Could Cost Taxpayers Over $340 Million for his first term.

For more on Trumps, golf outings check out this website: Trump Golf Count https://trumpgolfcount.com



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Reply Trump administration knows how bad things are for 2020. So they are hiding and delaying bad news. (Original post)
usaf-vet Jan 2020 OP
NCProgressive Jan 2020 #1
Mike 03 Jan 2020 #2
usaf-vet Jan 2020 #3
Heartstrings Jan 2020 #28
bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #4
kacekwl Jan 2020 #10
bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #13
Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #20
Heartstrings Jan 2020 #29
paleotn Jan 2020 #5
usaf-vet Jan 2020 #7
RVN VET71 Jan 2020 #6
KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #8
Ohiogal Jan 2020 #9
kacekwl Jan 2020 #11
MANative Jan 2020 #12
Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #15
world wide wally Jan 2020 #16
KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #22
Talitha Jan 2020 #19
calimary Jan 2020 #14
Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #21
machoneman Jan 2020 #17
kimbutgar Jan 2020 #27
dalton99a Jan 2020 #18
usaf-vet Jan 2020 #23
usaf-vet Jan 2020 #24
Poiuyt Jan 2020 #25
Baked Potato Jan 2020 #26

Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:18 AM

1. Fuck Trump. He *is* the swamp

 

He was just projecting when he said he would clean it

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:34 AM

2. My back-of-the-envelope prediction

is that he'll have spent somewhere around $650 million (including but not limited to golf) by the end of 2020. By the way, does this include protection for Jared, Ivanka, Don Jr., Eric, etc...?

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:57 AM

3. It does not include protection for Jared, Ivanka, Don Jr., Eric, etc.

One report alone for Eric cost $97,000 for a trip to Uruguay.

The Trump cabal is stealing the treasury blind. And apparently it is an "Inside Job" because Secretary of the Treasury is Steven Mnuchin is complicit with this as he is hiding the golf expenses to date.

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 03:49 PM

28. Also include all the grandkids secret service.....nt

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:10 AM

4. Therefore credibility of Democratic nominee is paramount

and therefore Trump will run a campaign of big lies against Democrats and be particularly vicious about it.

Forewarned!

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:34 AM

10. That's why every member of the Democratic Party

needs to say loudly,clearly without parsing words that trump is a liar. He lies about everything

all the time and can't be trusted to tell the truth about anything. Ever. Same goes for McConnell and Barr.

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Response to kacekwl (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:45 AM

13. The election will turn on credibility

I doubt the HRC campaign ever understood that, and they did not, for whatever reason, have the credibility to denounce Trump. She tried, in debates, warning voters, but to little avail.

I think that's why Biden is gaining traction. He calls Trump a liar, and calls out his lies. It's now an open topic so it makes for good sound bites.

But the media is complicit. Not just Fox, but NYT too. They will print the slant of the crooks. Must be about money, listening to the roots of NYC.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 12:08 PM

20. Bernie uses "pathological liar" to describe Orange Julius.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 03:52 PM

29. What she never said, and I watched and waited for it

“So why don’t you and your family bring their brands back to the US from China or wherever they’re being made”....nothing!

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:20 AM

5. Forbes, certainly NOT a "liberal" organization, estimates.....

340 MILLION dollars in the first term. 1/3 of a billion of taxpayer money. Let that sink in. 1/3 of a billion dollars flushed down the toilet. But Magats don't care. Just as long as he shits on the people they hate...which is damn near everyone but themselves...they don't care how much of THEIR tax dollars he blows. To be honest, I can't decide who's worse. The orange con, the spawn or the gutter trash who support him. I guess I despise their existence equally.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:25 AM

7. Dead on! I know this is an over used comparison BUT what if OBAMA had had spent 1/3 of a billion?

And then there is this OP on DU now.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016245609

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:23 AM

6. $340 million could have been used to build a wall

around the White House, a huge wall, the biggest wall ever, with an iron gate that locks from the outside.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:28 AM

8. We need some "What are you hiding, Donald?" TV spots.

and/or billboards.

1. What are you hiding, Donald....
About that plan to cut healthcare for millions of people?

2. What are you hiding, Donald.....
Regarding the cost of your dozens of golf vacations?

3. What are you hiding, Donald.....
In that report from Robert Mueller?

Wow, that list could go on for many pages.

KY...........

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:31 AM

9. Absolutely!

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:36 AM

11. Exactly.

Great idea.

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:36 AM

12. This!!!!!! Yes!!!!! N/t

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:38 AM

15. +1

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:41 AM

16. Don't forget his tax returns

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 12:20 PM

22. I would propose a second, concurrent series: "Donald Trump Lied to You".

15-second short and blunt TV spots or billboards such as......

1. Donald Trump Lied to You!
Massive infrastructure investments when?

2. Donald Trump Lied to You!
Where's our big tax break?

3. Donald Trump Lied to You!
President Obama was born where?

4. Donald Trump Lied to You!
Better healthcare for all when?

5. Donald Trump Lied to You!
Ask him about his inauguration crowd size and cost.

6. Donald Trump Lied to You!
(fill in any of around 15,000 to date)

Go on the offensive and pound him pound him, pound him.

Most Americans don't like being lied to.

KY.............

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 12:06 PM

19. PLEASE send this suggestion to Steyer and Bloomberg!!!!

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:12 AM

14. This should tell the whole story. Right here.

They don’t want to cough up anything potentially problematic until the coast is clear.

That alone should tell us everything we need to know.

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Response to calimary (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 12:11 PM

21. Yep. Best to hunker in the bunker for GOP. Doesn't matter. Shitstorm is in progress.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:53 AM

17. Look, they are hiding far more. The unemployment numbers don't make sense in....

light of serious declines in auto saless, new home sales, new home construction and other leading indicators of a rapidly slowing economy. I have no doubt that with trumpians in control of the government, they like him lie about EVERYTHING!

Power is all they seek, as in retaining any power the R-scums now have and will defend by cheating, lying and more.

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Response to machoneman (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 03:21 PM

27. And don't forget the retailers closing down

Sears, Macy’s, Forever 21, Dress Barn , Pier one imports, and Frys electronics. You walk a mall these days and there are less and less open stores. That’s a lot of people out of jobs from clothing manufacturing, supply chains and transportation.

You can see the slowing down right before your yes, the economy is not booming but getting closer to the cliff.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:55 AM

18. Democrats should use these items as examples in 2020

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 12:22 PM

23. Democrats should use lots of things that us little folks in their communities see but HOW...

... do we get those things heard and taken seriously. This is not a knock on Dems and dems alone. It is a fact of how today's politics works.

Citizen United not only fed millions ...no billions of dark money in politics but it made the value of our financial influence near worthless.

If you are a politician in today's world who gets your attention the person with the $5, $50, $500, $5000, $50,000 dollar check in hand.

My guess is at $500 you might get a nice smile, at $5000 a nice smile, handshake and added to call often list, at $50,000 you get the politician's right-hand, PA, or body man's direct cell number. From there, your guess is as good as mine.

The point is we have little or no chance of dozens of great ideas ever being heard or acted on. Frustrating to say the least.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 12:28 PM

24. Thanks to all who put me in the Trending Now column for the first time.

Made it to the top but not for long with the 1701 post.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 01:13 PM

25. He also wants to cut social security and Medicare in his second term

Sen. John Thune (R-SD), the second-ranking Senate Republican, expressed hope to the New York Times that Trump would be “interested” in reforming Social Security and Medicare. Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY) was even more optimistic. “We’ve brought it up with President Trump, who has talked about it being a second-term project,” Barrasso said. Senate Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has made no secret of wanting to cut Social Security.

In using deficit fears to target entitlement programs, many Republicans are hoping to use Trump's second term to cut Medicare and Social Security. First, expand deficits through tax cuts, then declare that spending must be slashed. The chief target of these proposed cuts is Social Security, which historians have noted the mainstream Republican party has long sought to diminish, privatize, or both.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2019/08/23/trumps-second-term-plan-for-social-security-starve-the-beast/#79755ee53794

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 02:17 PM

26. Weaknesses to be exploited

These, and taxes.

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