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CTyankee

(63,881 posts)
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:57 PM Sep 2012

Does anyone else suspect that the DNC has been a "game changer" for this election?

It just kinda hit me...I am doubting that we'll go back to the same campaign after this convention.

Or is the Romney campaign and the SuperPacs pulling ads out of toss up states just a feint, a move to distract us from another strategem they have up their sleeve?

I don't want to get too confident, but could it be that the republicans are slowly folding?

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Does anyone else suspect that the DNC has been a "game changer" for this election? (Original Post) CTyankee Sep 2012 OP
They will never fold tblue Sep 2012 #1
I think the convention has had a huge impact on the election...YES! nt snappyturtle Sep 2012 #2
They are holding back. Remember what Romney did to in his own primary. They southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #3
Well, I think I heard that Clinton is all in! Dawg is gonna leave a mark! CTyankee Sep 2012 #4
They ALL need to be in. Dems don't have the money the repub pacs have. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #6
I do appreciate that fact but if the Dems have planted the idea in the minds of the voters CTyankee Sep 2012 #8
I just hope and pray this convention just spills over for the next couple of mouths. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #14
I think it has been getting people more enthusiatic loyalsister Sep 2012 #5
It might have pushed Obama's wagon a few feet further, but the rMoney horse is dead. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #7
I just hope that the Big Dog deaniac21 Sep 2012 #9
Not likely, IMO, partly because the President won't be trying to compete with him. gkhouston Sep 2012 #10
ONLY IF WE WORK FOR IT jsmirman Sep 2012 #11
Yup. Good for us. We need to do that and we will... CTyankee Sep 2012 #12
I'm fully engaged at this point, for sure jsmirman Sep 2012 #13
Not sure. I'm part of the choir. Poll yesterday didn't show any increase for Obama. But it's early. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #15
Hey CTY,, check out the du fundraising post Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #16
They won't fold, they still have a good chance of winning Raine Sep 2012 #17
Statistically, if we can GOTV, we will win justiceischeap Sep 2012 #18
After 2004, I refuse to get too confident. I hope the convention fires up the base and GreenPartyVoter Sep 2012 #19
I think what many of us didn't know was how mush a long shot 2004 really was karynnj Sep 2012 #20

tblue

(16,350 posts)
1. They will never fold
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 04:00 PM
Sep 2012

They're trying to rig the whole thing so it doesn't matter who the people want to vote for. I can't understand how anyone would vote for a Repub over the party we've been watching on TV this week. But some people are set in stone and get off on being fearful and stingy.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
3. They are holding back. Remember what Romney did to in his own primary. They
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 04:03 PM
Sep 2012

are going to carpet bomb these states. I just hope all the people go out on the road and defend the president.

CTyankee

(63,881 posts)
8. I do appreciate that fact but if the Dems have planted the idea in the minds of the voters
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:59 PM
Sep 2012

that the repubs are lying (which is pretty evident) and that the Dems offer more hope and more clear direction forward (unlike the repubs who have NOT made their case to the American people), then the fix is in. People will look at the ads and see the lies and then wonder why the repubs need to lie to them. That would be powerful IMO...

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
10. Not likely, IMO, partly because the President won't be trying to compete with him.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:10 PM
Sep 2012

More likely, he'll begin by acknowledging all the amazing speeches that have happened this week and cite them as an example of Democrats working together. We'll probably end up with half of DU saying they liked Clinton's speech better and half saying they liked Obama's better, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. Not sure. I'm part of the choir. Poll yesterday didn't show any increase for Obama. But it's early.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 08:30 PM
Sep 2012

That would've been before last night, I think, so after only first night of DNC.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
17. They won't fold, they still have a good chance of winning
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 10:02 PM
Sep 2012

it's going to be a tough fight and I would bet close in the end.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
18. Statistically, if we can GOTV, we will win
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 10:05 PM
Sep 2012

that's why the Repubs have been working on voter suppression, because they know they can't win if people just go and vote and those votes are actually counted.

We need to make sure this feeling is carried over to getting out the vote.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
19. After 2004, I refuse to get too confident. I hope the convention fires up the base and
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 10:10 PM
Sep 2012

also the candidates, but as to what effect it is having on non-Dems I am not sure. How many are even watching, I wonder? (I do have my conservative hubby watching with me tonight, so that's one! Well, 2, really. LOL)

karynnj

(59,492 posts)
20. I think what many of us didn't know was how mush a long shot 2004 really was
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 10:23 PM
Sep 2012

Beachmom posted this article that someone had posted on twitter shows that Kerry did outperform what models would have predicted. Bush's approval rating and the economy gave him a good chance of being re-elected.

That did not count:
- the fact that 911 bonded many people to Bush who had not been there before
- the fact that he and Cheney terrorized people with false alerts because it led people to rally
around Bush
- The Catholic church and corporations knew that the winner could nominate 2+ SCJ - including replacing at least one conservative who was dying. Kerry would never have picked anyone who would vote for Citizens United.
- The media covered his biography, which was - even for a Presidential nominee - extraordinary and limited his direct TV exposure to just the 3 hours of the convention and the debates.
- 23 states had homophobic resolutions on the ballot to get the RW evangelicals out.
- He bowed to the media, party and his advisers in picking John Edwards, who then refused to cooperate with the campaign.

In spite of all of that, had the Republican SoS in Ohio not suppressed the vote by putting fewer machines than were there for the primary, he would have pulled off what might have been the greatest upset in decades.

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