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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:15 PM Sep 2012

Romney on Cusp of Defeat - Conceding Michigan & Pennsylvania UPDATE: & OHIO TOO?!?

Romney cedes Ohio TV airwaves to Obama (at least for now)

.........for reasons that his advisors declined to discuss, Romney has ceded the advertising airwaves to Obama over the last week in Ohio and other battleground states.


http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-obama-ohio-ads-20120906,0,4157574.story


Romney on Cusp of Defeat
by BooMan
Thu Sep 6th, 2012 at 12:41:58 PM EST

After I saw it reported that Romney and his associated Super PACs are pulling out of Michigan and Pennsylvania, I had to go look up when McCain gave up on Michigan in 2008. I remembered the decision because Sarah Palin responded by going deeply off-message.

Palin told Fox News' Carl Cameron that she disagreed with the McCain campaign's decision to pull its advertising and staffers out of Michigan, effectively ceding the state to Barack Obama.
"I fired off a quick email and said, 'Oh, come on. You know, do we have to? Do we have to call it there?'" Palin said.


The date that article was published? October 3, 2008.

So, Romney is conceding Michigan a full month earlier than McCain conceded it. Is that a sign that I am right that this election will not be closer than the 2008 election? I think it could be.

....................

By pulling out of Pennsylvania and Michigan so early, Romney has lost any margin of error. He can only win now by the narrowest of margins. He is literally on the cusp of defeat.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/9/6/124158/5943
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-502443_162-4499403-502443.html

The Romney campaign and conservative groups like Crossroads GPS have pulled TV ads in Michigan, Romney’s home state, according to the Detroit News.

Nor are the campaign and super PACs running advertising in Pennsylvania, after unleashing a barrage there over the past five months.


http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/romney-gop-michigan-pennsylvania-pull-out.php?ref=fpnewsfeed


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Avalux

(35,015 posts)
4. But when does it become apparent they're just flushing money down the toilet?
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:24 PM
Sep 2012

I've been thinking about this...at some point, and there isn't too much time left, the internal numbers will make it apparent Romney can't win. Above all else, these people love their money and I doubt they'll want to waste it on a losing bet.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
7. the press release i saw.. as much as said that...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:35 PM
Sep 2012

spend it because it won't do any good after the election.. thats a Romney tactic, when he has more money.. carpet bomb with an air attack of his opponent.. look what happened in the primaries, as soon as any of the other clowns got close, he massively outspent them.. his favorite tactic was the air campaign

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
8. I often consider that same thing, but right now I'm convinced that those billionaires are serious.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:35 PM
Sep 2012

Now, if 3 weeks go by without any carpet bombing ads in PA, MI, WI by the SuperPACs, I'll buy the idea that they are conceding those states.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
2. And pulling out of his "Home State" probably isn't going to bulwark him anywhere else
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:20 PM
Sep 2012

The Republicans are going to get a big asskicking this November.

And, all things willing, they'll respond to it the way they always do - going crazier and getting smaller.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
5. even if they don't get crazier... i think this is the last election cycle for them..
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:28 PM
Sep 2012

the drip, drip, drip of demographics is going to seal their fate.. the hand writing is on the wall, and you can almost smell the fear..

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
14. OldHippy has a point.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 12:57 AM
Sep 2012

The Republicans have been steadily defining themselves as the "Angry Straight White Christian Man" party, purging all elements of sympathy for any other category of person. They've managed pt hold onto a good handful of Angry Straight White Christian Women, mostly because they tend to go "yes dear" an awful lot... But even that is slipping.

The Republican party is going to have to do some serious internal reformation in the next six years, or it's going to be supplanted by a more open conservative political party. And there's no telling how that'll work; it could end up that hte Democrats will simply run practically unopposed for a decade as conservative parties split their votes all over the place.

 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
3. Exposed lies that is all. They will be back with stuff that can't be fact checked. It's going
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:22 PM
Sep 2012

to get nasty!!!

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
6. I believe Obama is going to win
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:29 PM
Sep 2012

but lets not get over confident. Romney never had a chance in Mi. or Pa republicans never do and especially with a candidate that says "Let Detroit go bankrupt." Republicans know they can never win Pa or Mi. So the billionaires that fund their super-pacs are simply making a strategic decision not waste anymore of their time, and money in those states. Now they can dump even more money into states like Florida, and Ohio.
 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
10. The PA voter ID bullshit has only strengthened Obama's position here. We threw out Mr. Frothy...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:43 PM
Sep 2012

... we can keep out rMoney.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
11. This is crap and no cause for complacency or too much joy...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:52 PM
Sep 2012

They still have more than enough money to shift gears at a moments notice and media carpet bomb the country. That 1% empire is powerful and we must fight like our very existance is at stake until the polls close. Citizens United and voter suppression make any talk of "concessions" and pull backs near meaningless.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
13. PLEASE EVERYBODY!!!! Make Harry Potter's Dark Arts professor Mad-Eye Moody your best friend!
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:08 PM
Sep 2012

PLEASE!!! Remember what Mad-Eye Moody always said to Harry Potter:


"CONSTANT VIGILANCE!!!!!!!"

I choose not to put too much stock in them pulling their ads and the SuperPACs are doing so too - because there are still two months to go, a lot can happen and a lot can change, and they have this HUGE mountain of money to use against our side.

These assholes play to win.

The only thing, for these worshippers of the god Money, they're probably sharp enough to recognize a bad bet after awhile, and they'll do what any worshipper of the god Money would do: hedge their bets (by giving to the other guy so they can sidle up to him and try to sweet-talk him into compromising their way); and protect their money. When you realize you're flushing your precious god down the toilet, throwing it away on a bad investment, you tend to want to minimize the damage, cut your losses, and stop flushing.

You don't suppose they're seeing this already? I HATE to get my hopes up. I've seen comments referring to "they must be seeing their own internal polling" - could that possibly be true? I want to believe it but that means being asked to trust the "altruism" of the koch brothers and that adelson bastard - and they have NONE.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
12. He's putting his money in the states where he can cheat
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:58 PM
Sep 2012

Wisconsin. Need I repeat how important it was to dump walker?

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