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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSeven Stunning New Pieces of Impeachment Evidence
https://www.alternet.org/2020/01/here-are-7-stunning-new-pieces-of-impeachment-evidence-just-released-by-the-house/amp/?__twitter_impression=true|1. Rudy Giuliani told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky hes working with Trumps knowledge and consent.
2. In the same letter, Giuliani says he is acting in his capacity as personal counsel to President Trump.
3. Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow gave John Dowd, another attorney, permission from the president to defend Igor Furman and Lev Parnas, two of Giulianis associates who have been indicted on campaign finance charges, in part, for their Ukraine-related work.
4. Parnas wrote notes on Ritz-Carlton stationery suggesting he was directly involved with the Ukraine scheme.
5. Parnas texted with a man named Robert F. Hyde, believed to be the same person who is running for a House seat in Connecticut, about removing former Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch.
6. Parnas was also communicating with Ukrainian officials which, Schiff argued, demonstrated that Mr. Parnas served as a direct channel between President Trumps agent, Mr. Giuliani, and individuals close to President Volodymyr Zelensky.
7. Giuliani tried to get a visa approved for a disgraced former Ukrainian prosecutor.
Grasswire2
(13,568 posts)Drum
(9,152 posts)TwilightZone
(25,464 posts)It would be interesting if Trump's personal attorney got subpoenaed and had to plead the fifth not to incriminate himself.
Sanity Claws
(21,846 posts)then he can't be Trump's attorney. One can't be an attorney in a case in which they are a witness. Very basic rule.
TwilightZone
(25,464 posts)I just think it would be funny if a member of the team had to drop out because he was subpoenaed, especially Trump's personal lawyer.
Sanity Claws
(21,846 posts)It would be a good strategy to throw the whole team in disarray.
calimary
(81,220 posts)Whatever is bad for trump is good for all the rest of us.
BadgerMom
(2,770 posts)subpoena Schiff, right? Please understand, I recognize it would be heavy-duty BS, but DJT said he would like having witnesses if they were VP Biden, Hunter Biden and Schiff.
TwilightZone
(25,464 posts)I don't really see the comparison. Sekelow was mentioned in the new docs, so it would be natural for him to be subpoenaed.
From the OP:
3. Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow gave John Dowd, another attorney, permission from the president to defend Igor Furman and Lev Parnas, two of Giulianis associates who have been indicted on campaign finance charges, in part, for their Ukraine-related work.
BadgerMom
(2,770 posts)I absolutely see the reasoning that Sekulow should be subpoenaed based on this new information. Schiff, of course, should not be. Agreed.
Its just that we seem to be operating outside the law and logic. Its this statement by DJT that unsettled me:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/trump-would-support-witnesses-testifying-senate-trial-if-bidens-were-n1113061
Maybe his impulse would be checked by others. Too often thats not the case. Thats why it occurred to me.
Karadeniz
(22,503 posts)Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)It's a job requirement.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts).
Ilya Marritz
?Verified account @ilyamarritz
Trump, in October: "I don't know those gentlemen"
Trump, also in October: approves legal counsel for "those gentlemen"Link to tweet
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MartyTheGreek
(565 posts)Wasn't he a Putin plant from the beginning?
Once again, aiding and abetting the enemy!
Perseus
(4,341 posts)What a traitor this MF is.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Karadeniz
(22,503 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Also an excellent movie.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Did tRump put out a hit on the Ambassador?
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)And I guess we can believe IMPotus when he says he knew of imminent Embassy attacks - because he was ordering them...
Toorich
(391 posts)..... he just agreed to let his lawyer Dowd represent them. Of course, by
doing that, he may have waived certain conflicts of interest, attorney-client privilege
and other protections.
ReformedGOPer
(478 posts)I have never ever used that word before, but somehow it's the only thing that comes to mind tonight.
Grokenstein
(5,722 posts)Link to tweet
How low can liddle Adam Bull Schiff go. To take some texts my buddys and I wrote while we had a few drinks to some dweeb I met a few times.... Bull Schiff is a desperate turd.
If this is true, Hyde's basically telling the world to try and stop him while setting up "I wuz drunk" as an out.
Given his history as a loud stupid garbage human, I can see this being legit.
He even mirrors Generalissimo Corpulente's childish rhetoric.
Captain Zero
(6,801 posts)he is over the edge, probably even a physical danger to Trump as well at this point. His delusional thinking could take him anywhere really fast.
MFM008
(19,805 posts)as the most impeached person ever known...imagine all the crap hes done in other countries.
Especially the great "deal maker" in Russia.
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)talking points to try to educate MAGA's