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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"No, your Honor, YOU'RE out of order!" . . . Please come CAPTION Alan Dershowitz!!!
Alan Dershowitz is saying: "Abuse of power, even if proved, is not an impeachable offense. Besides, you have to view this entire matter in the context of the late eighteenth-century American history when the constitution was written. But Ukraine didn't even exist until 1922, so how could the framers have visualized withholding aid to a country that doesn't exist? It's patently absurd."
Botany
(70,489 posts)He keeps saying that he needs to make the argument against the impeachment of
Trump in front of the Senate but isn't that horse is already out of the barn? Trump has
been impeached and no argument is going to change that.
Dershowitz is making an argument out of absurdity. So airplanes weren't here when they
wrote the Constitution so we shouldn't have laws for them?
packman
(16,296 posts)"Your honor, I was born in 1989 and the gas station I held up wasn't built until 2010. So How can I be guilty of robbing a store that didn't exist when I was born"
underpants
(182,767 posts)Great read
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212883500
The convention adopted high crimes and misdemeanors with little discussion. Most of the framers knew the phrase well. Since 1386, the English parliament had used high crimes and misdemeanors as one of the grounds to impeach officials of the crown. Officials accused of high crimes and misdemeanors were accused of offenses as varied as misappropriating government funds, appointing unfit subordinates, not prosecuting cases, not spending money allocated by Parliament, promoting themselves ahead of more deserving candidates, threatening a grand jury, disobeying an order from Parliament, arresting a man to keep him from running for Parliament, losing a ship by neglecting to moor it, helping suppress petitions to the King to call a Parliament, granting warrants without cause, and bribery. Some of these charges were crimes. Others were not. The one common denominator in all these accusations was that the official had somehow abused the power of his office and was unfit to serve.
ReformedGOPer
(478 posts)Bayard
(22,057 posts)Hayes played him this clip from Dershowitz. Tribe was flabbergasted--I don't even know where to begin.
skip fox
(19,356 posts)we commonly try to channel our subject's stupidity, cupidity, or as here. mendacity.
He actually said the first sentence, but not the rest.