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My anger for Barr rivals my anger for Trump. Barr and Trump are criminals who are destroying our democracy. I hope the law , justice, catch up to both of them before I die. I want to see it. I want to celebrate it.
dlk
(11,544 posts)Even with the impeachment trial in the Senate, its highly doubtful any Democrats in the House or Senate will ever have access to it.
Kid Berwyn
(14,869 posts)US Attorney General Barrs dad, Donald Barr, hired Jeffrey Epstein to teach at The Dalton School. In an odd coincidence, decades later William Barr would oversee Epsteins arrest and incarceration. He has no idea how he managed to suicide, like, seeing how the video went out and the quadruple murderer crooked cop was in another cell at the time.
https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/donald-barr/
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)dchill
(38,468 posts)Aren't you?
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)anything to get Trump re-elected.
Kid Berwyn
(14,869 posts)From The New Yorker:
...When Barr was an undergraduate, at Columbia, his classmates marched against the war in Vietnam. Barr wanted instead to buttress American power. He had told a guidance counsellor that he hoped one day to lead the C.I.A., and, during breaks from school, he spent two summers as an intern there. In 1973, he finished a masters degree in Government and Chinese Studies and returned to the C.I.A. as an intelligence analyst. At the time, a Senate investigationknown as the Church Committeewas uncovering decades of abuses at the C.I.A., and laws were being passed to curtail them. Barr later recalled the effort as a kind of assault, delivering body blows to the agency....
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/01/20/william-barr-trumps-sword-and-shield?verso=true
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,869 posts)They dont edit out stuff like that unless theres a pretty important reason cough AG Barr.
The Epstein-Barr Problem of New York Citys Dalton School
From there, Epstein would meet many people with heads for numbers and other things.
Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein.
Like a movie, how they touched everybody whos anybody...a scary movie.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)OTOH, I understand why they would. Just like when the allegations came back, that Trump raped a 13 yr old in Rowan Farrow's book and even Rachel didn't touch on it.
Kid Berwyn
(14,869 posts)When some are above the Law, and when leaders are not held to account for their lies, its easy for the fascists to keep a lid on the story. I spoke with a lawyer a few weeks back who follows the Barr story very closely. He had no idea about Barr Sr.s connection to Epstein. Coupled with his OSS (CIA forerunner) connections, the value of protecting Epstein the blackmailer becomes clear.
PS: Sorry to dupe a link above. The Epstein-Barr article spells out the situation.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,869 posts)"At the center of the criticism is the chief articulator of Bush's imperial presidency," we reported in 1992, "the man who wrote the legal rationale for the Gulf War, the Panama invasion, and the officially sanctioned kidnapping of foreign nationals abroad"
by FRANK SNEPP
The Village Voice, APRIL 18, 2019
The Village Voice, October 27, 1992
Attorney General William Barr is the Best Reason to Vote for Clinton
Excerpt....
SON OF THE CIA
It was 21 years ago, in 1971, that I first encountered William Barr. Both of us were working for the CIA at the time, he as a novice China analyst, I as a member of the agencys Vietnam task force. Jovial and unassuming, he took his cues easily from an overly politicized office chief. It was a token of things to come.
Three years before, we had brushed shoulders unknowingly on Columbia Universitys roiling campus. Both of us were on the other side of the barricades as antiwar demonstrations there blasted our generation into a decade of rage. Barr, a conservative student spokesman, preached toughness to the university administration, of which his father, then dean of the engineering faculty, was a leading light. Years later, this same damn-the-torpedoes zeal would commend Barr to his ultimate father figure, George Bush. When Cuban refugees penned up at an Alabama prison rioted and took hostages in the summer of 1991, deputy attorney general Barr ordered the place stormed. Soon afterward, Bush tapped him for the attorney general slot itself.
Barr first met Bush in the CIA. In 1976, having shifted to the agencys legislative office, he helped write the pap sheets that director Bush used to fend off the Pike and Church committees, the first real embodiments of Congressional oversight of the CIA. Intimates say the experience was formative for Barr, turning him into an implacable enemy of congressional intrusions on executive prerogative.
The most radical period I had probably was when I was sort of a moderate Republican, he later acknowledged. Sure enough, Barr stayed safe within conservative clutches even after leaving the agency in 1977. Armed with a night-school law diploma, he asked for and got Bushs backing for a clerkship appointment to Malcolm Wilkey of the Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Years later, as attorney general, Barr would name Wilkey to investigate the House Banking scandal. Wilkey repayed the favor with a wrenchingly partisan inquiry. Feeding the press overheated charges of wrongdoing, he scored points off the Democratic Congress just as the administration itself was being pilloried for its failed economics.
Source...
https://www.villagevoice.com/2019/04/18/attorney-general-william-barr-is-the-best-reason-to-vote-for-clinton/
Chapter and verse since Jimmy Carter crossed paths with the Safari Club: Its Big Oil to the Rescue or the Seven Sisters Escape Justice Once Again with this guy Barr, Servant to Capitalisms Invisible Army. Which also explains why Barr was given super-top secret power to oversee Intelligence Community:
Trump gives attorney general Barr sweeping power to declassify intelligence in Russia probe review
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-directs-intelligence-community-cooperate-attorney-general-investigation/story?id=63244302
Even a Very Unstable Moron from Queens can see how that authority can be abused most profitably. Who cares if it's treason when they have an Article II and Bill Barr?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)The list is very long. I am not old, but I want to see these bastards dead or in prison before I die. I have fantasies a la Ceausescu or Mussolini's ends. I know it sounds evil, but I believe in the greater good. These are people who would love to see us all scrounging out of ditches if they could get away with it. I despise them with every fiber of my being.
Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,809 posts)It is as if every cockroach hotel suddenly opened up and they all have come flooding out endlessly.
Next I expect every rock to be over turned, all covering not just one toxic snake but dozens......
Turin_C3PO
(13,952 posts)I cant write what I wish to be the fate of these assholes for fear of a Secret Service visit.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)Imprisoned
Always last in line, unless it's for something unpleasant
Forced to watch Planet Earth and other programs that appreciate unspoiled nature; and
Hospital how-to films about taking care of babies (feeding, diapering, etc)
The only reading materials are about ethics
No makeup, tanning beds, just a crewcut.
Just getting started. I need to think about his prison work program.
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)Maybe fast food always out of reach, the destruction of every one of his properties. I haven't figured what painful images of Ivanka should be shown (I am against violence)...maybe her tesifying against him in court--all on a repeating loop.
dchill
(38,468 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,444 posts)wryter2000
(46,032 posts)Just for a start.
(BTW, I thought your subject line was quoting Barr, and I wonder who Barr was trying to get imprisoned. Comey would have been my first guess.)
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)between top criminal prosecutors and Rudy Giuliani.
The meeting reveals a previously undisclosed interaction between two men
Trump depends on to defend him.
Link to tweet
dusk
(24 posts)for extra judicial killing. Epstein was ultra-high visibility. Barr closed the case before it began. The killers have their money and ongoing protection. A sign post for term 2.
Karadeniz
(22,493 posts)Law license. The only reason I can think of that he hasn't been impeached is that the Dems feel it would look like they're out to get every GOP member they can instead of going after those who legitimately deserve impeachment. Pompeo needs to be added to the list, as well as Mulvaney. How about impeaching all three at the same time?
cstanleytech
(26,280 posts)Even Obama whom I admire was not willing to do what was right when it came to Bush and what Bush did and like past presidents he allowed it to get swept under the rug.
KPN
(15,642 posts)Frankly, I think that was a huge mistake. We may not be in the shape were in had he pursued accountability for all of that. Putting inadequate regulations in place to forestall it happening again has been relatively insufficient. Big money is obviously not in favor of the people Trump would already be gone if that were so.
Nitram
(22,788 posts)in the Justice Department, but issuing outright lies in the name of the department. Such as his characterization of the Mueller report's findings.
drmeow
(5,017 posts)Trump doesn't really know what he's doing. I mean, he wants to stay in power forever he just doesn't actually see that as inconsistent with democracy because he figures his base will keep electing him indefinitely. Barr and McConnell know EXACTLY what they are doing - it is deliberate and calculated and the worst treason this country has ever seen.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)What happened with that? Another investigation shut down by Barr?
KPN
(15,642 posts)imprisoned. Fat chance.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,669 posts)Regardless of what happens afterwards, I want him to be the very first cabinet official to be fired and 86'd out of his office on the first business day of the new Democratic president's term. And I want to see him on live tv carrying his personal effects to his car in a battered old copy-paper box, escorted by security.