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Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:26 PM

The US National Archives: We made a mistake.





We made a mistake.

As the National Archives of the United States, we are and have always been completely committed to preserving our archival holdings, without alteration.

In an elevator lobby promotional display for our current exhibit on the 19th Amendment, we obscured some words on protest signs in a photo of the 2017 Womenís March.

This photo is not an archival record held by the @usnatarchives, but one we licensed to use as a promotional graphic. Nonetheless, we were wrong to alter the image.

We have removed the current display and will replace it as soon as possible with one that uses the unaltered image.

We apologize, and will immediately start a thorough review of our exhibit policies and procedures so that this does not happen again.

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Reply The US National Archives: We made a mistake. (Original post)
demmiblue Jan 2020 OP
Thomas Hurt Jan 2020 #1
PJMcK Jan 2020 #2
spanone Jan 2020 #3
getagrip_already Jan 2020 #4
Jamastiene Jan 2020 #6
dameatball Jan 2020 #22
pandr32 Jan 2020 #59
True Blue American Jan 2020 #54
snowybirdie Jan 2020 #5
Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #7
gratuitous Jan 2020 #11
Iggo Jan 2020 #8
yellowcanine Jan 2020 #14
ChazInAz Jan 2020 #33
bluestarone Jan 2020 #9
Karadeniz Jan 2020 #10
Buns_of_Fire Jan 2020 #12
MyOwnPeace Jan 2020 #41
Buns_of_Fire Jan 2020 #55
yellowcanine Jan 2020 #13
erronis Jan 2020 #15
DEbluedude Jan 2020 #29
Igel Jan 2020 #46
groundloop Jan 2020 #16
Shipwack Jan 2020 #35
dalton99a Jan 2020 #17
dweller Jan 2020 #18
TreasonousBastard Jan 2020 #19
wryter2000 Jan 2020 #21
SunSeeker Jan 2020 #26
wryter2000 Jan 2020 #39
Quackers Jan 2020 #23
MyOwnPeace Jan 2020 #42
SunSeeker Jan 2020 #25
TreasonousBastard Jan 2020 #30
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 #48
malaise Jan 2020 #20
Paladin Jan 2020 #24
SCVDem Jan 2020 #27
Piasladic Jan 2020 #28
griloco Jan 2020 #31
MyOwnPeace Jan 2020 #43
IronLionZion Jan 2020 #32
Hekate Jan 2020 #34
MyOwnPeace Jan 2020 #44
Dukkha Jan 2020 #36
Tanuki Jan 2020 #38
TygrBright Jan 2020 #37
UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #40
kairos12 Jan 2020 #45
Mickju Jan 2020 #47
Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #49
dalton99a Jan 2020 #50
malaise Jan 2020 #57
MyOwnPeace Jan 2020 #60
C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #51
orleans Jan 2020 #52
Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #53
Rogerpatterson Jan 2020 #56
sellitman Jan 2020 #58

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:27 PM

1. (sniff, sniff) smells like....Trumpist apparatchik.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:28 PM

2. I smell Trump's fingers in this

What a putrid piece of shit is Trump.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:28 PM

3. Bullshit. The mistake was trying to kiss trump's ass.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:28 PM

4. our mistake was getting caught - we are terribly sorry about that

it won't happen again.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:40 PM

6. THIS n/t

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:11 PM

22. Yup. We are very sorry (that you caught us) and will correct the error (someday).

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Response to dameatball (Reply #22)

Sun Jan 19, 2020, 01:18 PM

59. Yep--no firm commitment on when it will be fixed

Otherwise, the response would have been "immediately".

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 19, 2020, 08:07 AM

54. You said it

Someone thought it would be a good idea to suck up.

Isnít it wonderful that we have Investigative Journalism?

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:29 PM

5. BUSTED!

Thank you free press.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:46 PM

7. #SoSoviet -- hashtag being assigned to this kind of deceit. nt

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:09 PM

11. Between this and Stephen Miller's "load refugees on trains" idea

I'd say we're about five minutes past Stalin o'clock.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:06 PM

8. Yeah, but they did it.

It may have been a mistake, but it was no accident.

They did it on purpose.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:17 PM

14. I smell a Trumper rat.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:38 PM

33. Yep

There is no reason to do this, other than to soothe the raging Id of our God-Emperor.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:08 PM

9. Will watch to see if they get it RIGHT

The second time around! (bet they don't)

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:09 PM

10. They'll get their standards right in the future.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:10 PM

12. I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt. This time, anyway.

Yeah, they screwed up. They admitted it (very untrumpian). Okay. Go and sin no more.

Remember, one of the goals of the RabidRight is to make us distrust all government institutions. Unless this starts becoming a habit, I see no need to throw the baby out with the trumpwater.

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Response to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:12 PM

41. Sorry - not so inclined.

We don't know who or why:
1. pressure from "some boss"
2. decision to "not make waves"

Either one is SO wrong for someone in the National Archives - the "keeper" of truth and what actually happened - recorded for history.

Somebody employed there does not understand the mission of the place - and has made a serious distortion of an historical event.
What if they decided:

Ford's Theater - a disgruntled person with a bad seat
Washington Crossing the Delaware - some drunken buddies out fishing
Gettysburg Address - fund-raising for the 1864 campaign

No, don't throw out the baby - but make damned sure that baby is nowhere near any decision-making situation.

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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #41)

Sun Jan 19, 2020, 09:10 AM

55. I see your point. But the picture was just being used as part of a promotional

display -- not as an official record. They don't even control the original image (they licenced it for the occasion). Just like you'll never see a Chevrolet in the background of a Ford advertisement, they chose (badly, considering who they are) to blur out distracting references to things (like Comrade Fatass) that don't have any relevance to the 19th Amendment.

BBD&O (Batten, Barton, Durstine & Osborn, the advertising agency) can get away with things like that. The National Archives can't (and shouldn't). It was a dumb decision, but I don't see the evil in it (unless, like I said, it starts becoming a habit).

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:16 PM

13. Credit for admitting they were wrong but now we need to know why it happened.

And the Trumper who did this needs to find other employment. Altering photos by the National Archives is reprehensible.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:25 PM

15. I'm sure there's a cushy job for him/her, just like the rest of the viruses injected into the gov't

to destroy democracy and decency.

Hope the oligarchs have a huge chest to support all these parasites.

Oh, wait - that's all the taxpayer $s - including the deplorable tea-party idjuts that just love them some dumps.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:24 PM

29. Agree 100%

This is a fascist tactic. The people responsible should be held accountable.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:52 PM

46. Agreed.

Lots of people seem to be mind readers and have already lept to judgment. (Yes, I say "lept", not "leaped". Call it dialectal variation.)

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:29 PM

16. I wonder if the photographer took legal action for breaking copyright agreements

Most of the time photographs are licensed for display, and that license normally does not include the right to alter the image. I'd imagine if the photographer got wind of this he/she would be plenty pissed and would insist the altered image be taken down.

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Response to groundloop (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:05 PM

35. The image was licensed from Getty Images

In a statement they said that they had given approval for the image to be used for the exhibit, but were researching to see if they had given approval for alterations.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:31 PM

17. Get rid of the Trump cultist(s) responsible for this bullshit

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:39 PM

18. do we know for sure

if this is the only time this has happened?

✌🏼

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:59 PM

19. What did they alter?

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:09 PM

21. I can't see it, either

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #26)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:59 PM

39. Thank you!

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:13 PM

23. They removed or blurred anything that was critical of Trump in the photograph. nt

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #25)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:25 PM

30. Thanx. Shades of the USS McCain-- never let the master see the evil.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #25)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:10 PM

48. The dotard has such a fragile ego.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:05 PM

20. Whoever gave the order must sbe called out

Whoever obeyed it must resign. This cretin and his goons do not get to rewrite history

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:15 PM

24. Translation: "We got caught." (nt)

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:21 PM

27. They have destroyed our

 

Trust in government !

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:24 PM

28. I'm going with the benefit of doubt

Yes, they made a mistake, but they're owning up. Yes, they got caught, but they're fixing it. I really think they mean to do right. Time will tell if I'm being hopelessly naive again, but I'm hopeful.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:32 PM

31. Just fire the MadMAGAHatters...

(Though it was probably orchestrated by Hillary... by email... from Benghazi...

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Response to griloco (Reply #31)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:18 PM

43. Hillary - Benghazi..............

and came from Obama's server in Kenya!

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:38 PM

32. Sounds like something out of Russia

since they're using the 1st amendment as toilet paper these days

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:49 PM

34. Someone in the public who noticed, a free press, and public outcry. Good to know they still work!

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Response to Hekate (Reply #34)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:20 PM

44. And needed NOW.........

more than ever!!!!

This has more meaning every day:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak outó because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak outóbecause I was not a Jew.

Then they came for meóand there was no one left to speak for me.
--- Martin Niemoller

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:12 PM

36. Steaming pile of horse hockey

A typo is a mistake. Altering a photo is a premeditated forgery on an historic event.

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Response to Dukkha (Reply #36)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:40 PM

38. It's especially unacceptable coming from the Natonal Archives,

an institution that should know better.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 06:22 PM

37. Historians are familiar with human frailty... normally world-weary and tolerant...

...until you mess with HISTORY.

And, especially, if the one doing the messing is ALSO one of those who should know better.

Talk about poking a stick in a hornet's nest!

diffidently,
Bright

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:00 PM

40. There is no good reason for them altering this photo. nt

 

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:49 PM

45. Seen it before.

Photos probably declared as "degenerate."

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 08:23 PM

47. I'm glad they have done this, but it doesn't erase their crime.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:56 PM

49. Good. They must have heard from lots of people today.

I know they heard from us.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Jan 19, 2020, 01:20 AM

50. ACLU: Apologizing is not enough.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #50)

Sun Jan 19, 2020, 10:15 AM

57. THIS

It was not a mistake

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Response to malaise (Reply #57)

Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:20 PM

60. Correct..........

and whoever is making those decisions needs to be gone!

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Jan 19, 2020, 01:42 AM

51. Who specifically ordered this 'mistake'?

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Jan 19, 2020, 01:50 AM

52. "The museum also obscured the words "pussy" and vagina" in protest signs."

this was a huge fuck up
what is their motto: preserving the past in a way we deem acceptable?
fuck them

part of their apology tour says:
" Modifying the image was an attempt on our part to keep the focus on the records.Ē
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED ASSHOLES! we're talking about "your records" now!

the subject line quote (and apology tour quote) is from this buzzfeed piece:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/olivianiland/national-archives-womens-march-photo-apology-trump

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Jan 19, 2020, 02:21 AM

53. This is a little bit reassuring. I was truly disappointed to hear earlier the alter image.

 

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Jan 19, 2020, 10:11 AM

56. Government distrust

The suspicion is what happens when you can't trust anything coming out of the whitehouse. When politicians can't speak the truth for fear of retribution and would rather lie than risk angering a person that has no conscience and believes the ends justify the means. I hope for a reckoning and urge everyone do the right thing and get the liars out of our government.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Jan 19, 2020, 10:48 AM

58. George Orwell

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