The campaign against Yovanovitch originated with Poroshenko & Lutsenko

[intrepidity]

That this recording (on Rachel) happened in 2018, pre-Zelinsky, is important. Shows that Trump was onboard a long time.

Lutsenko wanted her gone. Lutsenko (& John Sullivan) were the ones promoting Yovanovitch as "anti-Trump" so they could continue their corrupt practices.

Lutsenko offered to find dirt on Bidens if only that pesky Ambassador were gone.

[tulipsandroses]

1. Yes, I was just going to start a discussion about this. And more importantly, why don't our elected

leaders want to get to the bottom of what happened, or is still happening?

He asked about how long Ukraine would last against Russia, Lev told him they would not last long, so he knew they would be vulnerable without US aid. I believe Rachel said weapons had been delivered to Ukraine the day of the dinner? There is something deeper going on here it seems. This is all pre Biden and Zelinsky. It is a damn shame our elected leaders do not want to find out what the hell is going on??

How is it that they are so willing to go to bat for Trump? Are they not the least bit worried about what else is out there? The people around him seem to like to like to keep receipts. Cohen had tapes, Omarosa had tapes, Parnas has tapes, Fruman has tapes. - Are these senators not concerned about what information might be out there? They know this president is corrupt. I am just going to assume that they either they do not care, or they are part of this corruption scheme in one way or the other.

[OhNo-Really]

11. Here's some missing dots

Sent to Natasha Bertrand.

Why aren’t these dots not being connected by media although SDNY probably has.

I think these two Russians highly implicated & bankrolled Giuliani et al.

Andrey Muraviev aka Muravyov & Vasily Anisimov

Anisimov is bankrolling Firtash in Vienna because Firtash $$ frozen by Ukraine; therefore, Vasily is likely bankrolling European/Ukraine side of Giuliani Et Al Caper. Vasily wants his $125 million back!

Andrey attended school in San Francisco & lived in USA 1992-1998. ?? Did he marry an American? Because he seems to easily invest in USA.

Also ?? Firtash is Aluminum King of Russia. His ties to McConnell’s Kentucky RU Aluminum deal??

And ?? What’s with Chertoff?! He also helped Eric Prince sell Blackwater?? 🙄

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2010/12/31/932598/-Erik-Princes-XMas-Gift:-A-Buyer-for-Xe-Blackwater,-SOLD

Here’s my research:

This oligarch Vasily Anisimov paid Firtash’s $125 million bail:

“Firtash received another Russian loan to pay his record bail of €125 million in Austria. It came from from Vasily Anisimov, the billionaire who heads the Russian Judo Federation, the governing body of Putin’s beloved sport.”

https://www.kyivpost.com/article/content/ukraine-politics/firtash-claims-kingmaker-role-in-ukrainian-politics-388070.html

2018 Firtash on cusp of extradition to USA & desperate.

😳Firtash US lawyers

“has assembled a team of legal all-stars, including former U.S. Attorney Dan Webb, former Bill Clinton White House attorney Lanny Davis and former U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff to help keep him out of a Chicago courtroom.”
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-dmitry-firtash-chicago-inc-20180316-story.html

So Vasily is anticipating losing $125 million.

Btw Vasily Anisimov is
Listed as Putin’s #10
https://www.askanews.it/esteri/2018/01/30/ecco-tutti-i-nomi-della-putin-list-di-washington-top10_20180130_103709/

Also, in Spring 2018

1. Parnas & Fruman donate $325,000 to GOP with magically appearing $$

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emmaloop/igor-fruman-america-first-donation-return

And simultaneously a rich Russian Andrey Muraviev becomes $$ front man involved in US Marijuana along with Parnas & Fruman co-indicted Kukushkin.

And $$ is given to Nevada Republicans.

Russian businessman who allegedly bankrolled the effort, court documents in an unrelated California breach of contract lawsuit involving Russian businessman Andrey Muraviev may provide clues to the identity of the unnamed Russian identified as Foreign National-1.

Read more here: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article236028683.html#storylink=cpy

So no coincidence Parnas’ Eagle-eyed attorney Joseph Bondy specializes in Cannabis!

Andrey Muraviev aka Muravyov & Vasily Anisimov are highly likely to have bankrolled Giuliani Parnas & Fruman

Imho

Lastly, the Ukraine Conspiracy was started in 2018 as well per George Kent Testimony:

My article

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212873062

I think these dots are explosive 🧨

[BigmanPigman]

2. I was trying to figure this out too.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212903042.

Refresh my memory, who is Lutsenko again? Never mind, he's the Ukrainian prosecutor I was thinking was the dude who did it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/10/01/ukraine-opens-case-against-ex-prosecutor-yuriy-lutsenko/3828779002/

[intrepidity]

3. The AG under Poroshenko nt

[BigmanPigman]

4. I just Googled him.

He is the one I figured did it. All fingers point to him and Putin.

[intrepidity]

5. Yes. As corrupt as our own Barr.

Yovanovitch was on to him. Just like Biden had been onto Shokin (prior AG forced out by Biden et al, i.e., world)

[mopinko]

6. gas contracts. this was always about gas contracts.

much as i enjoy seeing twitler hung up for these crimes, rachel has pointed right at russian gas and oil interests.
i want rick perry on the stand.

[intrepidity]

7. Yes nt

[hedda_foil]

8. All roads lead to Putin. Why else would the orangopotus ask about Ukraine's strength v Russia?

It's about oil and gas alright... Just not ours.

[BigmanPigman]

9. Isn't her whole book supposed to be about

how oil is the root of all evil corruption?

[mopinko]

10. yup.

she talks about some of these characters, too. firtash, iirc.