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Wed Jan 29, 2020, 11:02 AM

 

Has Michael D'Andrea Turned Up?

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Reply Has Michael D'Andrea Turned Up? (Original post)
mylightningtoo Jan 2020 OP
Anon-C Jan 2020 #1
WhiteTara Jan 2020 #2
Rhiannon12866 Feb 2020 #3
wishstar Feb 2020 #4
Rhiannon12866 Feb 2020 #5
wishstar Feb 2020 #6
Rhiannon12866 Feb 2020 #7

Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 11:07 AM

1. Nope.

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Response to mylightningtoo (Original post)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 02:26 PM

2. Who is he?

Welcome to DU

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:48 AM

3. Here's a thread explaining:

CIA chief 'behind Soleimani's assassination' killed in downed plane in Afghanistan

Russian intelligence sources have claimed that Michael D’Andrea, head of CIA operations in Iran and who orchestrated the assassination of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani, was killed in a US spy plane downed yesterday in Ghazni, Afghanistan.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2424965

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 2, 2020, 04:11 AM

4. False accounts of his death reportedly started by Iran propaganda according to Time magazine:

The wreckage of a U.S. military plane that crashed and burned in a snowy mountainous region in Afghanistan on Monday was still fresh when Iranian state TV ran a story claiming a top CIA officer was among the dead. Like all good propaganda, the story was mostly false, but with a scintilla of truth. Two American service members had been killed when the U.S. Air Force jet slammed into the snowy ground, but U.S. officials insist there was no CIA onboard

After a couple of fringy Iranian and pro-Kremlin news outlets reported that Michael D’Andrea, head of the CIA’s Iran Mission Center, was onboard the E-11A communications jet, the story was picked up in The Daily Mail, a major British tabloid, and a second British newspaper, The Independent, carried the news of D’Andrea’s alleged demise to London, albeit with some skepticism. While the Pentagon confirmed to TIME on Friday that there were only two Air Force officers on the plane, none of the official public statements say they were the only passengers. And the CIA has refused to comment on whether D’Andrea or any other CIA personnel were onboard.

he U.S. military says it could not have gotten the news out sooner. But the Iranian version of events that circulated in the information vacuum had people inside and outside the U.S. wondering who to believe. The Trump Administration’s now-familiar pattern of slow, incomplete and sometimes disingenuous responses to events has ground down public and internal trust of its messaging and created an opportunity for adversaries like Iran and Russia to spread disinformation and sow confusion among allies and U.S. officials. The wrong information can spread about an event whether it happened on a remote Afghan mountainside or a maximum-security American compound. “If false reports are not authoritatively or convincingly disproven, they can take on a life of their own,” James Cunningham, former U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan told TIME. “Once that happens, it’s very hard to undo that.”

Critics and some U.S. officials say the growing dearth of trust in America’s word is symptomatic of an Administration led by a President who calls journalists “the enemy of the people”, frequently labels factual or unflattering news coverage as “fake news”, and has himself made more than 12,000 false or misleading statements during his tenure, according to a count by The Washington Post. A trust gap has formed between journalists and Administration spokespeople who often see challenging questions as political attacks, and treat offending outlets with disdain.

https://time.com/5775758/military-crash-cia-disinformation/

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Response to wishstar (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 2, 2020, 04:14 AM

5. Thanks so much for this!

That was an old article and of course the source was suspicious...

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 2, 2020, 04:24 AM

6. Time magazine describes Trump Admin lack of credibility fueling the story

Final sentence of the above article says it well "No one believes us anymore" :

"Overall, there are fewer on-record press briefings in the Pentagon, the State Department, the White House and other agencies in this Administration, says a former senior Trump Administration official. He says that’s due in part to the top-down nature of the Administration and in part to subordinates’ efforts to protect the President. There is an internal battle afoot with some senior Administration officials arguing for more public briefings, and while the White House Press Secretary hasn’t briefed from the podium since March 2019, the Pentagon and State Department have resumed holding more frequent press conferences to win back that global public trust. But it’s an uphill battle against the megaphone of the Twitter presidency —and the active disinformation campaigns being waged overseas against the U.S. “No one believes us anymore,” one frustrated senior U.S. official."

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Response to wishstar (Reply #6)

Sun Feb 2, 2020, 04:38 AM

7. Well, that's not surprising

If it comes from Trump, it's likely a self-serving fantasy - same with anything that comes from his chosen minions. Not to mention, press briefings are non existent.

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