Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:07 PM

Wednesdays (16,589 posts)

This 2017 article predicted what's happening today

I figure a repeat of this article to be wholly appropriate today. This Vox article is from 2017 and it pertains to the Russia investigation, but it is still eerily prophetic for what’s going on now.

The gist of the article is this: what happens if prosecutors prove their case against Donald Trump, and it still doesn’t matter?

Say Mueller reveals hard proof that the Trump campaign knowingly colluded with Russia, strategically using leaked emails to hurt Clinton’s campaign. Say the president — backed by the Wall Street Journal editorial page, Fox News, Breitbart, most of the US Cabinet, half the panelists on CNN, most of the radio talk show hosts in the country, and an enormous network of Russian-paid hackers and volunteer shitposters working through social media — rejects the evidence.

They might say Mueller is compromised. It’s a Hillary/Deep State plot. There’s nothing wrong with colluding with Russia in this particular way. Dems did it first. All of the above. Whatever.

Say the entire right-wing media machine kicks to life and dismisses the whole thing as a scam — and conservatives believe them. The conservative base remains committed to Trump, politicians remain scared to cross the base, and US politics remains stuck in partisan paralysis, unable to act on what Mueller discovers.

In short, what if Mueller proves the case and it’s not enough? What if there is no longer any evidentiary standard that could overcome the influence of right-wing media?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/2/16588964/america-epistemic-crisis

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11 replies	Author	Time	Post
This 2017 article predicted what's happening today (Original post)	Wednesdays	Jan 2020	OP
Yes and Trump warned us in 2016	PatSeg	Jan 2020	#1
We can only hope.	Wednesdays	Jan 2020	#4
And numerous accounts of his drug use	PatSeg	Jan 2020	#5
What drug use is this supposed to be?	Jedi Guy	Jan 2020	#7
Well his use of Adderall has long	PatSeg	Jan 2020	#8
Okay, Noel Casler	PatSeg	Jan 2020	#9
Well, an Adderall dependency would explain a hell of a lot.	Jedi Guy	Jan 2020	#10
Could be why he was taken to Walter Reed	PatSeg	Jan 2020	#11
Recommended.	H2O Man	Jan 2020	#2
Chilling article	NewJeffCT	Jan 2020	#3
Remember reading this story at the time.	Wellstone ruled	Jan 2020	#6

Response to Wednesdays (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:12 PM

PatSeg (45,801 posts)

1. Yes and Trump warned us in 2016

with his "I could shoot someone on 5th Ave" comment. Perhaps there is no crime that could bring him down, though I think he could end up imploding before the election - perhaps a mental and physical breakdown.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:36 PM

Wednesdays (16,589 posts)

4. We can only hope.

I've been reading those threads with interest about how he's deteriorating.

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Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:44 PM

PatSeg (45,801 posts)

5. And numerous accounts of his drug use

I don't see how he is functioning at all. Someone said that there were three unplanned trips to Walter Reed Hospital, seemingly because of his drug use. Physically and mentally he is a mess.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 31, 2020, 02:02 PM

Jedi Guy (2,878 posts)

7. What drug use is this supposed to be?

I've read before that he's a teetotaler because of his brother Fred's alcoholism, an attitude that he also extended to drug use.

Drug use would most certainly explain... well, not everything, but a hell of a lot.

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Response to Jedi Guy (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 31, 2020, 02:26 PM

PatSeg (45,801 posts)

8. Well his use of Adderall has long

been known, but people who have worked with him in the past, have mentioned cocaine and diet drugs as well. I'll try and find the most recent article that referenced the Walter Reed visits.

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Response to Jedi Guy (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 31, 2020, 02:39 PM

PatSeg (45,801 posts)

9. Okay, Noel Casler

recently brought up the drug use on his Twitter account. I can't pull up his Twitter account, wonder if he got banned.

Here is an article from a few weeks ago though:

Noel Casler worked with Donald Trump on The Apprentice, and the comedian has something to say about his experience with the man who is now president of the United States. According to Casler, Trump was a known drug user during his Apprentice years, and the comedian says that the president is so dependent on drugs at this point that he can hardly function.

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“I know what that’s about. He’s a 73-year-old drug addict. It takes him three hours to get going in the morning. Now he has degenerated to the point where he doesn’t leave the residence. He’s taking most of those meetings when he’s at the White House in his private quarters,” Casler claimed.

https://www.inquisitr.com/5824081/donald-trump-drug-user/

I think the Tweet or article about the three visits to Walter Reed were from someone else though, someone close to those involved. My mind is fuzzy right now, I'm on overload. Maybe someone here remembers it.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 31, 2020, 06:13 PM

Jedi Guy (2,878 posts)

10. Well, an Adderall dependency would explain a hell of a lot.

Let's hope he doesn't go into withdrawal. Sad days when the government is probably maintaining a stockpile of Adderall to keep the President on an even keel in the event of a shortage...

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Response to Jedi Guy (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 31, 2020, 07:20 PM

PatSeg (45,801 posts)

11. Could be why he was taken to Walter Reed

or maybe a bad mix of drugs.

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Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:14 PM

H2O Man (72,215 posts)

2. Recommended.

Thank you!

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Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:22 PM

NewJeffCT (56,813 posts)

3. Chilling article

we can only hope that a huge turnout in November can get the job done

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Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:54 PM

Wellstone ruled (34,661 posts)

6. Remember reading this story at the time.

Suspected there would be a all out Propaganda Blitz with the cooperation of Right wing Media to discredit any one whom might challenge the Orange Anus.

Al Franken was the first victim via Roger Stone and a ABC Radio Station set up. The GRU/Putin Bot network is alive and well and is in full speed ahead mode to reelect the Orange Turd.

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