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Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:35 PM

Even the most low-information voter will know there were no witnesses...

...and that there was no fair trial in the Senate.

Republicans are not going to be successful in spinning that any other way.

Democrats will not need any long explanations. They will only need to remind voters that there were no witnesses permitted and it was not a fair trial. That will be a paramount issue in the next election. Republicans will not be able to change that.

If there are other revelations, and most people would bet on it, it will be a heavy load for Repubs to carry.

That is the political reality.

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Reply Even the most low-information voter will know there were no witnesses... (Original post)
kentuck Feb 2020 OP
matt819 Feb 2020 #1
kentuck Feb 2020 #5
N_E_1 for Tennis Feb 2020 #2
bdamomma Feb 2020 #3
uponit7771 Feb 2020 #7
D_Master81 Feb 2020 #4
uponit7771 Feb 2020 #6
AJT Feb 2020 #8
leftstreet Feb 2020 #10
maxsolomon Feb 2020 #9

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:45 PM

1. No, they won't

Not unless we keep reminding them of this in TV ads, print, and online. Using words and ideas they can understand. Likening this sham to 1984 means nothing to them. Tell them the story in ways that resonate with them as lower middle class people. As farmers. As small town residents. As Christians.

Sure, that Budweiser ad was good. Diverse Americans. That may work selling beer. It probably won't work selling fearful white voters on a Democratic field consisting of a Jew, a couple of women, a billionaire, a long-time politician, a gay guy, and a Chinese guy.

This is going to take a strong, smart, concerted effort.

The ad Bill Maher showed what's possible.

The Lincoln Project ads are great. But they need to come out literally every day, targetted well, consistent. In the same way that the Russians used micro-targetting in 2016, so does the Lincoln project need to do the same today. Get them to be so prevalent that the MSM covers them as a news event. They need to be everywhere. FB is not going to go away. Let's use it better than the Russians. And not only against Trump. McConnell, Collins, Murkowski, Booker, Portman, et al. Every single day. I call on Tom Steyer, Mike Bloomberg, and other less visible Democratic billionaires to fund this endeavor.

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Response to matt819 (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:55 PM

5. I disagree.

I think this is a fact that will continue to resonate with voters.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:47 PM

2. Censure should be earnestly discussed...

The republican lawyers, senators own statements can be used as fuel for the debate. They admit he did wrong but not wrong enough. So spank his smallish hands. The Democrats then could use that as election fodder...an impeached man...censured...written across tons of political ads.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:49 PM

3. or put in another

way if you were held on trial with no evidence or witnesses, your ass would be hauled off to jail.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:00 PM

7. +1, which is why Roberts is a hack functionary. History will ask why he didn't do anything in regard

... regards to Trump cheating.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:54 PM

4. I'm shocked

I was shocked that Republicans didnít at least appear to care about optics in voting the way they did. Just shows the death grip that the Orange one has over the party. I truly expected another Kavanaugh like half hearted attempt at the truth but they didnít even do that. Stunning

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:59 PM

6. Nope, livs wouldn't know or care. We need to define Red Don right now in regards to witnesses.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:13 PM

8. All I've heatd from 45ers is that he wasn't allowed to call any witnesses.

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Response to AJT (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:16 PM

10. Or, 'they didn't call witnesses because there aren't any'

That's how they'll spin it

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:16 PM

9. I'd love to see a survey of low-info voters.

To see if they even know what Trump's impeached for.

Or that he is impeached.

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