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Taverner

(55,476 posts)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:04 PM Jan 2012

Why I loved Christopher Hitchens

Unlike most pundits today, the man had a spine. I remember during the buildup to the Iraq war, he was out cheering the invasion, talking it up. I disagreed then, and still do now, and I think he didn't think that one through however - I remember him on Real Time with Bill Maher. When he stated his support for the war, the crowd started booing. He turns to the audience, drink in hand and cigarette in mouth and loudly tells them all to "fuck off" while flipping them the bird.

That is the kind of spine I'd like to see in our party today. Fuck compromise, there is no compromise with the cryptofascists in the GOP today.

I'd like, for once, when some idiot from WingNut Daily asks Obama a really dumb question in a press conference, for him to throw a cup of coffee at the nutter, and tell them to fuck off.

I would like once, when a war hero like Max Cleland or John Kerry gets besmirched by the cryptofascists, for them to stand up, and give them the bird. And if they keep squawking, for them to sucker punch the bastard, and sucker punch them HARD.

Being nice only counts in Kindergarten and PreSchool.

I want the Democrats to grow some spines, and take notes from Christopher Hitchens.

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Why I loved Christopher Hitchens (Original Post) Taverner Jan 2012 OP
I think it was Congressman Jim Moran who offered to take Randy "Duke" Cunningham outside for... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2012 #1
I like that... Taverner Jan 2012 #2
I always thought he was a pompous ass but.. Little Star Jan 2012 #3
wow. that's what you call spine? Whisp Jan 2012 #4
I was just talking about that with a good friend and fellow DUer today. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2012 #5
Sorry, I think one catches more with honey. tabatha Jan 2012 #6
I love him for THIS: PassingFair Jan 2012 #7
thanks for that. Whisp Jan 2012 #9
A tour de force! PassingFair Jan 2012 #14
I loved Hitch, I like Bill Maher, Sam Harris, George Carlin, Sam Kinison, and so many others. banned from Kos Jan 2012 #8
Indeed. redqueen Jan 2012 #12
Whether or not one agreed with Hitchens, hifiguy Jan 2012 #10
For me, it was Mother Theresa KT2000 Jan 2012 #11
The first thing I read of his was the piece on Mother Teresa. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #13

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
1. I think it was Congressman Jim Moran who offered to take Randy "Duke" Cunningham outside for...
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:12 PM
Jan 2012

... a boxing lesson when Cunningham was calling Democrats wimps.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
3. I always thought he was a pompous ass but..
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:19 PM
Jan 2012

I 100% agree that I'd like to see Dems grow some friggin spine against those cryptofascists.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
4. wow. that's what you call spine?
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jan 2012

being a rude asshole even though your character is not a rude asshole?

As for Hitchens, it suited his needs and that was part of his character - an abrasive jackass with a marvelous way with words. I liked him a lot even though half the things he said I thought were lunacy, but he had a way about him that was very special. These types don't come around very often and the world will miss that.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
5. I was just talking about that with a good friend and fellow DUer today.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:25 PM
Jan 2012

I immensely agree with a lot of his works...but he was an a-1 ass and not someone I would aspire to behave like.

tabatha

(18,795 posts)
6. Sorry, I think one catches more with honey.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:26 PM
Jan 2012

One can have spine in a subtle way - get what you want while leaving the naysayers shaking their heads realizing they have been had. That is smart and classy.

Christopher Hitchens was a boor (not to speak ill of the dead, but this is for comparison), and had as much as subtlety as a bull in a china shop.

I would rather the Republicans be crass.

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
14. A tour de force!
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 04:12 PM
Jan 2012

I wish I had been in the audience....

A small college in my OWN STATE, and
I didn't see this until after he died.

 

banned from Kos

(4,017 posts)
8. I loved Hitch, I like Bill Maher, Sam Harris, George Carlin, Sam Kinison, and so many others.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:41 PM
Jan 2012

But none of them could win an election of any magnitude.

People talk about TPTB - but don't fuck with the ultimate Fictional Power.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
12. Indeed.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:53 PM
Jan 2012

Politics involves a lot more finesse and diplomacy. It's easy to be an obnoxious politician as long as tptb are on your side. When they're not, you have to be be very circumspect.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
10. Whether or not one agreed with Hitchens,
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:48 PM
Jan 2012

and I don't think anyone could agree with him all of the time, he was never boring and usually thought-provoking. I loved "god is not great" even though he erred in vaguely attributing the philosophical outlook of Imperial Japan to Buddhism when it is clear that Shinto was its basis.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
13. The first thing I read of his was the piece on Mother Teresa.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:53 PM
Jan 2012

As a lapsed Catholic, his in-your-face irreverence was as shocking as it was hilarious; I nearly fell off my chair laughing. As in much of his work, he takes a position and digs in. I see a bit of Hitchens' je ne sais quoi in Matt Taibbi, and that's a good thing.

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