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Thomas Paine understood why you can't reason with a Trump supporter (Original Post) RAB910 Feb 2020 OP
Have a heart from me RAB... This is my sig line. Zoonart Feb 2020 #1
Yes They have willfully treestar Feb 2020 #2
Usually, their preachers think for them. Simplifies their lives. They work NCjack Feb 2020 #5
Reagan's getting rid of the fairness doctrine has produced 2 + generations of brain dead idiots Botany Feb 2020 #3
I had to explain to my "woke" gardener that Kittycow Feb 2020 #4
I'm a landscaper and one of my customers told me that yes Trump is an a-hole but it is a good ... Botany Feb 2020 #6
As usual, Thomas Paine is way ahead of us still. paleotn Feb 2020 #7
He is one of my favorites. wendyb-NC Feb 2020 #11
That's for sure! wendyb-NC Feb 2020 #8
These same people are always whining about their rights nuxvomica Feb 2020 #9
Gave you a heart for this volstork Feb 2020 #15
Thank you, volstork! nuxvomica Feb 2020 #18
You are so right. volstork Feb 2020 #20
Our butthole family members in the Ozark area NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #10
Excellent quote. k&r n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #12
I have always loved Thomas Paine! Mountain Mule Feb 2020 #13
Aka you can't fix stupid nt Javaman Feb 2020 #14
Like rocks, all you can do is break it into small pieces, and chuck 'em. lastlib Feb 2020 #17
Yes, we're wasting our time trying to educate them. StarryNite Feb 2020 #16
I wear a t-shirt with that quote. shockey80 Feb 2020 #19
Thomas Paine would want nothing to do with the Tea Party Martin Eden Feb 2020 #21

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
5. Usually, their preachers think for them. Simplifies their lives. They work
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:11 AM
Feb 2020

and kick 20% up to their churches.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
4. I had to explain to my "woke" gardener that
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:10 AM
Feb 2020

Regan got rid of the Fairness Doctrine.

He thought President Obama did it! We ended up having a long conversation about all the stuff Obama didn't do. He was really misinformed!

Botany

(70,490 posts)
6. I'm a landscaper and one of my customers told me that yes Trump is an a-hole but it is a good ...
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:16 AM
Feb 2020

... that HRC lost because she had somebody killed to hide Bill's cocaine ring. About 1/4 to 1/3 of
America is lost because of the open sewer of misinformation that is being put out 24/7 by the right.

Another person told it wasn't Trump but Obama who worked with the Russians in 2016.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
7. As usual, Thomas Paine is way ahead of us still.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:35 AM
Feb 2020

One of the fathers of liberal democracy everywhere and a hero of mine. A man of all times. Though he didn't arrive in the colonies until 1774, he was one of the brains of our revolution. Common Sense crystallized American Independence in a way few other authors have before or since. Champion of the Girondins in the French Revolution, who wanted to replicate much of our revolution in their own. But enemy of the Montagnards. Populist crazies who went so far left they met the monarchists on the other side and advocated tyranny and oppression royalists never dreamed of.

wendyb-NC

(3,322 posts)
11. He is one of my favorites.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 11:04 AM
Feb 2020

He stands out as a philosopher and statesman, when I was an undergrad, majoring in philosophy. His thinking resonated with me deeply back then, and it still does.

nuxvomica

(12,421 posts)
9. These same people are always whining about their rights
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:40 AM
Feb 2020

Their "sacred" 2nd Amendment rights or their 1st Amendment rights or their property rights, yet they have voluntarily given up their most important right, the same right even a prisoner in gulag enjoys, the right to think for themselves, without which all their other rights are meaningless.

nuxvomica

(12,421 posts)
18. Thank you, volstork!
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 01:31 PM
Feb 2020

The comment comes from a conversation I had with a Trumpster. I complained about the racism of right-wingers and he said he was a right-winger but not a racist. I asked if he believed 3 million undocumented people voted in California in 2016, just to see how deluded he was and he said he was sure they had. I pushed for evidence, an argument, a reference, a citation. He was flummoxed by the request and said he had none "on him" but there were "articles" on the internet. This is their problem: they swallow assertions like that, talking points, but they can't even argue them rationally. Others like him I've talked to have said it's their opinion and they have a right to their opinion, but the sad thing is not just their opinion has no basis but that they have accepted it without thought, because someone they somehow admire has told it to them.

volstork

(5,400 posts)
20. You are so right.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 01:54 PM
Feb 2020

Someone in my neighborhood (see their car at the grocery store parking lot) has a bumper sticker that reads, "Critical thinking: the OTHER national deficit."
Need to get myself one of those...

NoMoreRepugs

(9,412 posts)
10. Our butthole family members in the Ozark area
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 10:47 AM
Feb 2020

Blame both Bush jr’s and Rumps transgressions on Obama and all his successes are transferred to the same two buttwipes. I’m supposed to talk nice to these goobers? Nah, I don’t think so.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
21. Thomas Paine would want nothing to do with the Tea Party
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 02:32 PM
Feb 2020

He and other Founders would sound alarms over Trump and his Senate sycophants.

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