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Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:18 PM

Never Forget

“Remember that all through history, there have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they seem invincible. But in the end, they always fall. Always.” -- Gandhi

Never forget that Donald J. Trump is the only president that has been impeached in the 21st century. And there isn't anything that he can do to change that.

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Reply Never Forget (Original post)
H2O Man Feb 2020 OP
ffr Feb 2020 #1
Butterflylady Feb 2020 #13
Still In Wisconsin Feb 2020 #54
H2O Man Feb 2020 #15
Stuart G Feb 2020 #2
Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #3
Stuart G Feb 2020 #4
ChazInAz Feb 2020 #11
H2O Man Feb 2020 #16
rufus dog Feb 2020 #22
H2O Man Feb 2020 #24
sandensea Feb 2020 #14
H2O Man Feb 2020 #17
sandensea Feb 2020 #23
spanone Feb 2020 #5
H2O Man Feb 2020 #18
Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #6
H2O Man Feb 2020 #19
Midnightwalk Feb 2020 #35
H2O Man Feb 2020 #37
Dem2theMax Feb 2020 #7
H2O Man Feb 2020 #25
FiveGoodMen Feb 2020 #8
H2O Man Feb 2020 #26
lpbk2713 Feb 2020 #9
H2O Man Feb 2020 #27
lunasun Feb 2020 #55
lame54 Feb 2020 #10
H2O Man Feb 2020 #28
lame54 Feb 2020 #32
Dukkha Feb 2020 #12
H2O Man Feb 2020 #29
Dukkha Feb 2020 #33
Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #20
H2O Man Feb 2020 #30
Skittles Feb 2020 #21
H2O Man Feb 2020 #31
Martin Eden Feb 2020 #34
H2O Man Feb 2020 #38
Martin Eden Feb 2020 #40
H2O Man Feb 2020 #45
argyl Feb 2020 #36
H2O Man Feb 2020 #39
Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #41
H2O Man Feb 2020 #47
Kid Berwyn Feb 2020 #42
H2O Man Feb 2020 #48
unblock Feb 2020 #43
H2O Man Feb 2020 #49
Laelth Feb 2020 #44
H2O Man Feb 2020 #46
calimary Feb 2020 #50
H2O Man Feb 2020 #52
Me. Feb 2020 #51
H2O Man Feb 2020 #53

Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:27 PM

1. Only hope the democratic payback lasts solidly for the next century.

RePuticans are villains, nobody to admire or look up to.

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Response to ffr (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 06:20 PM

13. It will be the end of the repugs party.

Rump has poisoned the entire party. Gandhi was right.

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Response to Butterflylady (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:44 PM

54. In my opinion the Republican Party has been dying for a long time... it finally died when

 

Trump won the election, and every Republican in Congress cowered underneath him.

Sure, there's a political party called the Republican Party still, but it's really the Trump party. In my opinion it will be so until Trump dies... won't matter if he's out of office, his MAGAs will still follow and he will lead them via social media.

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Response to ffr (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 06:52 PM

15. I hope so.

Democracy is constant struggle. And it is fluid. I hope we can drown the republican party in that fluid.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:39 PM

2. Come November there is payback. Trump is a liar, crook, and bully..He is proud of it. He thinks

has won, but come November he and the Republican Party will see a defeat like they haven't seen since 1936. They are arrogant in a way that truly upsets 60 to 70% of voters. And, they all think that they can get away with it.
...Payback will be total and complete. But this is a prediction, we will see when it comes true. I believe it will. We are not the only ones sick of these pukes. Many independents and former Republicans will make a statement with November's vote...............

Gandhi is correct, “Remember that all through history, there have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they seem invincible. But in the end, they always fall. Always.”

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:42 PM

3. you are assuming the election will be free and fair....

...in spite of all evidence to the contrary.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:51 PM

4. I assume they, the Pukes, will try to cheat and steal this election..like they did the last.

...When you can steal 1000 votes and change them to Trump, and get away with it, that is one thing.

When Trump loses a state by 100,000 votes that is totally another thing. It will not be close enough that the dirty tricks will matter. He is full of "hate and lies" And arrogant in a way that is incredible.

The election will not be close enough to steal It will be clear as to who the winner is. The winner will not be Trump. He is an embarrassment to this country and the world. And it will be clear that people in the U.S.A. want him out. It will not be close enough to steal. And that is what I believe.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:20 PM

11. He will try a truly Stalinesque stunt.

His ego demands that he be re-elected by a near-unanimous vote. His inept flunkies will try to arrange that and the results will be so blatantly false that there will be such a shitstorm as never has been seen before in this country.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:01 PM

16. I doubt that

anyone on this forum assumes the election will be "free and fair." I've seen nothing to suggest that in a single post that I've read going back to 2016.

What I have seen are lots of posts by people who know there will be cheating, and who are inspired to knock the shit out of the republican party. They know that foreign and domestic attempts to influence and decide the election are as certain as the sun rising in the east tomorrow morning. That's the new reality. It's one of many connected reasons we need to crush the opposition in November.

I've fought plenty of opponents who were dirty as hell. I found that by beating the fuck out of them works best.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #16)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:15 PM

22. It is the only viable option left

 

Unlike the previous times we must make it really bad. Nixon skated, the BushCheney cabal skated. This time we can’t allow moving forward for the good of the Country. For the good of the Country requires holding those responsible accountable, including jail time.

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:32 PM

24. Exactly right!

I think it means saving democracy in this country. It will require repair, but we can accomplish that. It also, by no coincidence, requires all of us to put forth our best efforts. We can do that.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 06:22 PM

14. Your words to God's ear

For a landslide like 1936, it'll take something like a massive intelligence leak that could show up these treasonous kleptocrats for what they are.

But you never know.

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Response to sandensea (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:02 PM

17. Right.

There will be an on-going flow of intelligence leaks, White House staff talking to reporters, and Trump outrages from now to November.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:44 PM

23. Can't wait

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:57 PM

5. ...always.



⭐️⭐️K&R⭐️⭐️

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Response to spanone (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:04 PM

18. Thank you!

"Hit them fast, and hit them hard," as Rubin used to say.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:57 PM

6. The Repugs will seek revenge for Trump's impeachment the moment we have a Dem POTUS

...and *if* they're back in the Majority in the House. That's why we have to make sure that doesn't happen.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:08 PM

19. Definitely.

I've meaning meaning to write something about the perpetual campaign, the security state, and impeachment becoming more frequent, as three leafs on a clover. They will continue to feed upon themselves. The only cure is an ounce of prevention, which requires the Democratic Party to win big.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #19)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:01 PM

35. One other thing

Haven’t disagreed this far reading, but if we win we should get some legislation passed which helps people before the midterms.

I want to win big, but then I want to win long.

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Response to Midnightwalk (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:30 PM

37. Absolutely!

We need to protect the right to vote, and for every vote to count. And we will need to maintain control at the national level, which will allow us the control in every state possible. As I quoted an old friend earlier, democracy is constant struggle.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:02 PM

7. But in the end, they always fall. Always.

Those are words we need to keep repeating to ourselves. He will fall. Maybe not as fast as we would like, but he will fall.

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Response to Dem2theMax (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:36 PM

25. Yep.

We need to think that while we swing the axe. Trees don't fall from a single swing. We need to start chopping away at Trump et al now.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:08 PM

8. But in the end, their victims are still dead

No one ever makes up for that.

And before you know it, a new group is busy handing power over to a new tyrant.

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:39 PM

26. "If you get down

and you worry every day, you're saying prayers to the devil, I say." -- Bob Marley

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:10 PM

9. As I see it ...



I look forward to reading his obituary with great enthusiasm.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:40 PM

27. Ha!

I hope you mean the one I'll be posting here on DU:GD.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:12 PM

10. When does that apply to Putin?

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Response to lame54 (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:40 PM

28. What do you think?

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:11 PM

32. I think there is no sign of Putin going down

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:24 PM

12. The Kim Dynasty seems pretty immune to that

With no sign of slowing down

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Response to Dukkha (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:42 PM

29. That's odd.

I thought that two of the three that compose "the dynasty" were decomposing in their graves.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:32 PM

33. That's what they WANT you to think!


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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:08 PM

20. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread H2O Man.

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:43 PM

30. Thanks, Uncle Joe!

Much appreciated!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:15 PM

21. yeah, they always fall, but they can do an incredible amount of damage

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Response to Skittles (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:44 PM

31. Right.

Trump and his cult are doing a fuck of a lot of damage to our country. It will require our best efforts to repair this, once they are gone. But we can accomplish it.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:53 PM

34. If there is such a thing as Karma ...

.. Trump is heading for a fall BIGLY.

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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #34)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:33 PM

38. I agree.

He will be history soon. And history will not be kind to him.

A few of my friends are certain he will resist leaving the White House, unable to accept the humiliating defeat in November. They believe he'll be dragged out. What do you think?

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #38)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:03 AM

40. Trump will use every means at his disposal to contest or void the election

And I don't doubt the Republican Party with AG Barr will conspire to make that happen, no matter how thin the case. If it drags on and goes to the Supreme Court, will the Chief Justice who presided over the sham impeachment trial save our republic or will his oath prove as meaningless as it was for his "conservative" brethren in the Senate?

I don't fear Trump refusing to leave until he's dragged out. I fear a further collapse of our Constitutional checks & balances, taking the next step (no longer a giant leap) into 21st century American fascism.

Until recently I never thought this was possible, but now the unthinkable looks like a plausible scenario.

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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #40)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:18 PM

45. I was listening

to Chris Hayes of MSNBC. He was pointing out that although the Trump machine is attempting to portray him as powerful, every measure shows he is weak. They want to create an unbeatable image, although virtually every one of our candidates is beating him in polls.

That is what concerns me. He is a cowardly dog. I remember in my days of responding to "community crises" as a social worker -- I was never concerned about the dogs that greeted me from in front as I approached a house. But I was very aware of those that tried to sneak up behind me. Cowardly dogs were far more likely to bite.

I agree with your assessment. The concerns you note are the same as my own. Thank you.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:22 PM

36. Jail him for the rest of his life. Seize his assets, topple his fraudulent business "empire."

Go after his grifter kids.
Mitch, Barr, Nunes, Lindsey, Rudy, ad nauseum, you too.
Skating on such monstrous abuse should not be allowed.
Unfortunately, some if not all will not get what they deserve.

I'm so tired of these fuck heads. But not too tired.

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Response to argyl (Reply #36)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:35 PM

39. Seriously!!

I did not expect to have to be dealing with shit stains like them in DC at my age. I really thought Nixon would be the last creep to become president. So much for that!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:03 AM

41. Are the billionaires recognizing that his cult is poisoning the whole pie?

At the moment, Bloomberg is blanketing the airwaves with anti-trump ads. So far as I know, he's not a sociopath, but accumulated his billions within the rules, however skewed those rules have been under GOPers.

Are there corporations and filthy rich individuals who recognize the danger to the country posed by the extremists in league with trump and Putin? Getting an oversized chunk of a poisoned pie is not much of a reward.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #41)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:31 PM

47. Great question.

Are they so addicted to the digits in their bank accounts, that they don't care? These things gnaw at me. I do not trust them. Greedy people never seem to care much about anything but them and their own.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:33 AM

42. Total Hoax

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #42)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:36 PM

48. Thanks!

That is SO GOOD!!!!! Although one could reasonably conclude Trump has no shame, he clearly does not like people laughing at him. I think that is something we need to focus on in this year's campaign.

It sounds like Bloomberg's commercials are getting under Trump's skin. I like that. A lot.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:42 AM

43. first president impeached when his own party had a majority in one of the houses of congress

first president to get a vote for conviction from a member of his own party

first president to have an impeachment trial with zero witnesses

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Response to unblock (Reply #43)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:37 PM

49. Yes!

Even his most spineless apologists admitted that he had done the things the House impeached him for.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:18 PM

44. "The arch of history is long, but it bends toward justice." - MLK



-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #44)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:28 PM

46. Thank you!

“The hope of a secure and livable world lies with disciplined nonconformists, who are dedicated to justice, peace, and brotherhood. The trailblazers in human, academic, scientific, and religious freedom have always been nonconformists. In any cause that concerns the progress of mankind, put your faith in the nonconformist!” -- MLK

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:12 PM

50. Quote of the Week!

Yes, the week is young. But this could still be THE winner by Saturday!

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Response to calimary (Reply #50)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:39 PM

52. Thank you!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:18 PM

51. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Response to Me. (Reply #51)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:40 PM

53. Thanks, Me!

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