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Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:05 PM

I think its time for our surviving American presidents and presidential candidates to speak up.

Carter, Clinton, Bush, Obama... we are losing our democracy. Your voices still carry a lot of weight, and can help the people understand what a grave crisis we are in.

Al Gore, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton... the country needs to hear from you too.

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Reply I think its time for our surviving American presidents and presidential candidates to speak up. (Original post)
milestogo Feb 12 OP
blm Feb 12 #1
rockfordfile Feb 12 #2
alittlelark Feb 12 #3
redwitch Feb 12 #4
marlakay Feb 13 #14
Nature Man Feb 14 #18
Still Sensible Feb 12 #5
not_the_one Feb 12 #7
milestogo Feb 12 #8
VOX Feb 12 #6
oldsoftie Feb 13 #9
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 13 #16
oldsoftie Feb 14 #20
pwb Feb 13 #10
Karadeniz Feb 13 #11
dhill926 Feb 13 #12
lpbk2713 Feb 13 #13
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 13 #15
Harker Feb 14 #17
mahina Feb 14 #19
llashram Feb 14 #21
cilla4progress Feb 15 #22
sprinkleeninow Monday #23
tavernier Monday #25
bobGandolf Monday #24
delisen Monday #26
emmaverybo Monday #27
democratisphere Monday #28
Mike 03 Monday #29

Response to milestogo (Original post)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:10 PM

1. Warren is pounding on the corruption. Charles Pierce pointed it out.

We should all be shouting corruption every day.

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Response to blm (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:12 PM

2. Should hear more from the candidates

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:23 PM

3. Primarily B*sh. His voice could make a difference to MAGAts

At least it would make them rub a few brain cells together.

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Response to alittlelark (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:32 PM

4. If they have functioning brain cells. Nt

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Response to alittlelark (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:46 PM

14. Is he making money doing speeches?

If so don’t count on him.

The dem presidents want to stay out of it.

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Response to alittlelark (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:08 AM

18. I don't think this current crop of racists even considers him a republican anymore

It's almost like no one voted for him. Twice.

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:40 PM

5. Politically I don't think the optics and timing would be helpful

Unfortunately if any of these become high profile speakers right now it would be portrayed as heavy hitters defending a weak group of current candidates.

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Response to Still Sensible (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:57 PM

7. Yeah, optics woud be much better the 2nd week of November.



Sitting back and giving the courtesy of silence, to the current office holder, is EXACTLY what is needed.

NOTHING is more important than courtesy, and the optics of not interfering. At least we will be COURTEOUS FASCISTS.

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Response to Still Sensible (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:04 PM

8. I think the crisis we are in outweighs the optics by a factor of one billion.

Fuck the optics, and fuck what the right has to say.

Its not about the candidates, who are not weak btw. Its about losing our democracy.

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:49 PM

6. It'd just be dismissed as "3 socialists and a RINO."

I’m afraid at this point, everyone is already in their respective corners when it comes to “4 more years” vs. “Trump must go.”

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:03 PM

9. The only one i think would have an impact would be Reagan. If he were around.

They'll just call "W" a RINO, or say he's pissed because of his brother, or one of a dozen other excuses.
And any Dem speaking out would of course be ignored

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:49 PM

16. What about the Bushes? Or do trumpers hate them too.

Trump is so devious he turned his followers against everyone who is remotely sane.. McCain, Jeb, Romney.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:27 AM

20. Yes, they do NOW. During Obama it was always "Miss me now?" bumper stickers.

Funny how they never bring up W now. He went along with the Democrats too often! He exploded the debt! Even though that wasnt a problem while he was doing it. Trump has the impact of a mob boss, which is what he LIKES. Making people turn against one another in order to curry favor from HIM

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:05 PM

10. I agree. He always bad mouths their policies.

Time for past presidents to defend our country.

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:24 PM

11. Yep. This is their moment!

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:22 PM

12. Agree...especially Bush.

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:36 PM

13. Trump and McConnell have put us in deep shit.



A collaborative effort like that would help a lot.

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:46 PM

15. Yes! Been saying this for awhile. In a typical term

when we aren't in power, not having a leader is not that big a deal. Keep the tradition, and stay silent. But we are genuinely on the precipice here. We need the Clinton's and Obama's and Jimmy to speak out and to offer our party wisdom and ideas for how to rid ourselves of this monster.

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:55 AM

17. I'd like to hear from a bunch of dead ones.

FDR and HST leap to mind. Eisenhower. They all had plenty to say about fascists and fascism, and they were capable of thinking and speaking intelligently.

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:00 AM

19. Wholeheartedly agree

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2020, 12:22 PM

21. you are right

their silence is conspicuous. Protocol be damned, republicans are not observing the law, protocol or not firing people for telling the truth about this POTUS and his administration. This is our democratic experiment in jeopardy of fast becoming fascist. and nothing but crickets. Sad to me, but what do I know. Impeachment didn't work, that's all I know. And Trump our first Al Capone POTUS gives less than a damn about the stain historical or otherwise on his record. He is all about enriching his buddies, his family cons and himself.

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 11:29 AM

22. Completely agree!

Been ticked about the Bushes. Where the hell are THEY?! But the others too, as you say. 👍

Seeing the sentiment here means others are thinking the same thing. That's good. It's the rethuglican voices we really need, that could make a difference..

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:51 AM

23. Occurred to my mind: How are past leaders such as these mentioned personally dealing

with the egregious happenings being witnessed by us ordinary everyday people.

Are they shaken and quite disturbed? They have dreams and family and wants.

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 05:37 AM

25. He got them their judges.

They’re not ready to dump him yet... more perks to collect.

But the day will come when they won’t need him anymore, and then he’ll be flushed out to sea, by every single one of them.

Do you really think Rump is running this circus? Or Putin?
Or that Mitch or Lindsey or the rest of the repub Congress are shaking in their boots fearing being bullied? Not on your life. They know exactly what they are doing and why.


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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:55 AM

24. I agree!

Regardless of party, everyone who cares for democracy needs to step up now. After the third strike on the third out is too late.

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 05:53 AM

26. Don't expect to hear from Bush. Not sure who Barr is protecting

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:06 AM

27. We heard from John Kerry. Backing Biden and drawing the contrast.

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:07 AM

28. drumpf's base are NOT Americans. His base are drumpflicons

which has become an authoritarian cult. Anything said by former Presidents or Vice Presidents would be meaningless to drumpf's cult members. It was disgusting to hear the NASCAR fox announcers, Jeff Gordon in particular, gush and have multiple orgasms over drumpf taking laps at the Daytona 500 Race Track yesterday in the Beast Limo. drumpf's cult followers have been totally brainwashed and there is no way to make THAT different. America is in serious danger and the only thing that will save her is to pick the absolute best candidate to appeal to the greatest number of all voters. BS candidates should be written off immediately, free will never be! Voters will run away from any socialist like the plague. Extreme idealism will lead to failure of the objective to rid ourselves of drumpf. Desperate times require desperate measures to save our nation! THINK!

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Response to milestogo (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:53 AM

29. Thomas Friedman has suggested something like this. He specifically

named Presidents Obama and W. Bush, but his gist was the same as what you are saying. He also threw in Chief Justice Roberts (this was months before the Impeachment trial sham). He thought a group like this could preserve American dignity, serve as a reality check and prevent things from spinning hopelessly out of control.

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