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Amaryllis

(9,741 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:31 PM Feb 2020

Rachel: "Pointing it out isn't enough. We have to plan how we are going to survive it."

Just now. She said, "We are there."
Asking about how can we protect those who speak out. Interviewing Mary McCord who was with DOJ for a long time RE DOJ intervening in Stone case.
Asking McCord what we can do. "How should we be answering these alarms as a country?"

For those feeling hopeless, read this if you haven't:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212977409
Dan Rather: "They are counting on despair. That's how they win."

"There is a tendency to feel the despair well up from within, and not recognize it as a weapon being wielded with precision and purpose from without. They are counting on despair.

The greatest leaders in our history knew that despair is toxic to progress. Washington at Valley Forge. Lincoln at Gettysburg. Martin Luther King, Jr. in Birmingham. But more than the famous names are the countless women and men who have fought back against despair in the service of hope, and progress. I have seen it in foxholes, on picket lines, in classrooms, and in midst of natural disasters. I have seen it in the marches, movements, and moments where people rose up and said our world can be better, and we will do the hard work to make it so.

Despair these days is an understandable feeling. Our world seems in many ways upside down. To fight against the odds, against the powerful, against the morally bankrupt, is exhausting. But just remember, they are counting on despair. Will you let them have it?"

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Rachel: "Pointing it out isn't enough. We have to plan how we are going to survive it." (Original Post) Amaryllis Feb 2020 OP
Tearful to watch this broadcast tonight eleny Feb 2020 #1
Yes, hard to watch but Rachel is not mincing words, which is very good. Really calling Amaryllis Feb 2020 #2
A most serious tone tonight eleny Feb 2020 #3
Please what? triron Feb 2020 #10
If you're asking what her broadcast was about, it's in the OP eleny Feb 2020 #13
Not what I was asking. I watched the show. triron Feb 2020 #21
sorry for my confusion eleny Feb 2020 #23
I really feel depressed after watching this. BigDemVoter Feb 2020 #4
Mary McCord said a lot of the judges will continue not to succumb. I felt better after hearing her. Amaryllis Feb 2020 #5
But what good will it do? Trump will not be prosecuted. And he will continue being ruthless. triron Feb 2020 #11
I don't care what DT does. I care what we do. That is what matters. 58Sunliner Feb 2020 #14
Me too , I despise republicans I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #8
Rachel knocked it out of the park tonight. And frankly, KPN Feb 2020 #6
There's no doubt in my mind that if dump is allowed another 4 years, ecstatic Feb 2020 #7
Not only that I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #9
+1000000000000 triron Feb 2020 #12
If they go too far, some of us will Ilsa Feb 2020 #15
❤️ I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #19
I too have imagined this. cilla4progress Feb 2020 #27
Republican senators need to watch this! young_at_heart Feb 2020 #16
Do you really think they give a shit? Woodycall Feb 2020 #22
For later lame54 Feb 2020 #17
Great commentary from Dan Rather. Do not give in to despair. It can be contagious. Normal people c-rational Feb 2020 #18
I'm going to get crucified, and probably banned... Woodycall Feb 2020 #20
You really think you can win? Oh really? Wednesdays Feb 2020 #24
I'm sure the French Resistance would agree with you Woodycall Feb 2020 #26
No Doubt colsohlibgal Feb 2020 #25
My fear is not enough people are truly paying attention. Grammy23 Feb 2020 #28
Yes this is true I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #31
Rachel was great last night Gothmog Feb 2020 #29
To avoid despair and news obsessing, I recommend doing something creative bloom Feb 2020 #30

BigDemVoter

(4,486 posts)
4. I really feel depressed after watching this.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:39 PM
Feb 2020

And it wasn't that i was in a good mood when the show started.

I have NO faith in these traitors to step up and do the right thing. The repigs have proven what side they're on. We can count on ONE fucking repig senator, and that is PATHETIC.

Just the thought of these people in charge for another 4 years makes me just recoil in revulsion. I fucking hate every single one.

 

triron

(22,240 posts)
11. But what good will it do? Trump will not be prosecuted. And he will continue being ruthless.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:11 PM
Feb 2020

I only see it getting worse. Putin wants him and the republicans in power. Sorry.

KPN

(16,004 posts)
6. Rachel knocked it out of the park tonight. And frankly,
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:47 PM
Feb 2020

Klobuchar did as well. She was very aggressive — going after tRump and the dangers we all face, and making her case. Sanders/Warren supporter here. Amy knocked it out tonight.

ps - I’ll vote for her in a heartbeat if she takes this.

ecstatic

(34,104 posts)
7. There's no doubt in my mind that if dump is allowed another 4 years,
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:50 PM
Feb 2020

American journalists and/or critics of trump will start disappearing and dying. And the worst part is there won't be any consequences. Everyone in the position to do something will either be in denial or part of the cover up.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,842 posts)
9. Not only that
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:02 PM
Feb 2020

The people who are vulnerable disabled old or sick will be suffering until they die with the money grab trump wants to kill the social safety net.and by proxy murder them. A lot of people will dissapear/ die. Trump and the republicans are sociopath criminals every last one.

These evil fascist trump fuckers and the corporate pigs that enable this shit need to be tossed out the door on thier asses . If need be physically removed from power and tossed out on thier asses and thier power reduced by taking back thier ill gotten wealth they use to control bribe and abuse the people in this country. Enough is enough.

Ilsa

(62,135 posts)
15. If they go too far, some of us will
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:26 PM
Feb 2020

have nothing left to lose, and will take one for the team. I will not stand by idly if they try to slowly kill my family through neglect.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,842 posts)
19. ❤️
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:56 PM
Feb 2020

Agree. Trump is a proxy murderer.
And he's murdering the country and abusing it along with his sociopath asshole criminal buddies and the fucking brainwashed narcissitic pieces of shit just like him.

1/3 statistically is how many narcissists sociopaths and authoritarians we have in our population. It's no coincidence they like trump because he is just like them.

young_at_heart

(3,837 posts)
16. Republican senators need to watch this!
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:27 PM
Feb 2020

The senators are enablers of this destructive person who is quickly turning the rule of law into nothing. As long as they (and his base) feel the same as him then it's truly an uphill battle for the rest of us. I keep hoping Mitt is not the only one with a conscience or possibly others don't like seeing our country trashed in this way.

Woodycall

(288 posts)
22. Do you really think they give a shit?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:12 AM
Feb 2020

Attention: This is not a drill! This is a fascist coup! this is happening in real-time right before your eyes. Buy a gun... My Dad had a BAR in North Africa, Anzio, and all the way through Germany! Because, they didn't care about protest signs back then. And they don't now...

c-rational

(2,826 posts)
18. Great commentary from Dan Rather. Do not give in to despair. It can be contagious. Normal people
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:30 PM
Feb 2020

cannot understand how the opposition could behave in such a manner because we forget they are pathological. Keep your head up and your wits about you.. There are more of us than them, but they know that one diabolical agent can foil a hundred if you succumb. Resist.

Woodycall

(288 posts)
20. I'm going to get crucified, and probably banned...
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:58 PM
Feb 2020

but maybe, regardless of your feelings about them, it's time to buy and learn to use and maintain, a gun...

Wednesdays

(19,558 posts)
24. You really think you can win? Oh really?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:22 AM
Feb 2020

Sure, waste your money on an AR-15. How long you think you'll last against an M1A2 tank or Apache helicopter?

Winning for our side will not involve picking up guns.

Woodycall

(288 posts)
26. I'm sure the French Resistance would agree with you
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:28 AM
Feb 2020

"Winning for our side will not involve picking up guns." No, we will express our outrage and report to our assigned camps! WTFU!

colsohlibgal

(5,276 posts)
25. No Doubt
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:26 AM
Feb 2020

This fat oaf thinks he’s King. Game on for the Soul of our Country.

This fat Orange excuse for a person is terminally despicable as well as stupid. The millions who voted for him have serious judgement issues.

Oh and the Electoral College needs to go away. Minus that HRC would be in Office and we would be in a different place, not the crisis we are now in.

Grammy23

(5,880 posts)
28. My fear is not enough people are truly paying attention.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:48 AM
Feb 2020

We here at DU have been on high alert for a long time. Others not so much. I tried without success to talk to my son ages ago. It isn't easy to bring people up to speed in a few minutes. They lose patience and think YOU are the one who has lost their mind. Trying to explain all the connections to Putin and all of that and you start to think maybe you are losing your sh*t....even though you know better. Large numbers of the American people are not ready to hear this. They still think they are safe and nothing is wrong. Until they get confronted by a tank, they’ll not listen or will minimize the warnings.

As I said to my husband tonight.....what are we supposed to do, March on Washington? Who is organizing a march? Is anyone anywhere doing anything besides sounding the alarm? Will protests do anything besides identify who they must kill off?

Are we all waiting for someone else to do the planning and pre-event work? I’m confused and disheartened to realize what deep sh*t we are in right now. And yet everyone seems to be going about their business as if nothing is wrong. Waiting for someone else to do something.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,842 posts)
31. Yes this is true
Sat Feb 15, 2020, 11:45 AM
Feb 2020

All we have to do to defeat this coup is to stop shopping,working and as a last resort not pay taxes and leave the money for your taxes in an escrow and withhold these things until the republicans squeal to death and quit.

bloom

(11,636 posts)
30. To avoid despair and news obsessing, I recommend doing something creative
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:03 PM
Feb 2020

Write a book

Work on an art project

Recreate some clothes

Or something.

I need something that requires long term engagement - analyzing and emotional expression.

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