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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am 63.
This country is going to be deeply divided for the rest of MY life.
I am afraid it is going to be deeply divided for the remainder of my grandkids lives.
Yes, it is depressing to think about and it is difficult NOT to think of it.
Maybe it's why I spend to much time immersed in music.
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)Lord Ludd
(585 posts)Harker
(14,010 posts)and overall health.
bdamomma
(63,836 posts)this crisis to our children and generations to come? not really appropriate.
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)padfun
(1,786 posts)I am 64 and there has always been a divide. But then, I was a long hair back then and we really saw the repression back then.
AJT
(5,240 posts)I'm not quite sure how to cope.
Xipe Totec
(43,889 posts)I will outlive these bastards.
librechik
(30,674 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Im old enough to remember the pre-womens movement and the pre-Civil Rights Act. I remember when women couldnt get credit cards and when the pill came along. We were also deeply divided in the hippy counterculture revolution and the Vietnam war.
If we get rid of Trump well survive just like we always have.
I'm 61 and very happy with the progress made in my lifetime for civil rights, gay rights, safe and legal abortion, etc.
Vote Trump out this year and we can get back to the business of progress. His brain is stuck inn the 1950's.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)I hate when people post those "nostalgic" days of the past because there was open segregation and women were not considered equal (hell, they still aren't by many).
A couple of the main differences are the proliferation of the gun lobby and people walking around armed and dangerous AND the difference between the haves and have-nots. When I was growing up, the only time I saw a gun was when I was hunting (I don't do that stuff anymore, by choice) and at that time, CEOs only made about 6 times the amount of their workers.
Also, the tax rate was fairer for the common person at that time.
We will never get back to those days, IMO.
CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)It sure isn't 1974 anymore is it?
I too use music and a lot!
Been sharing this one w/friends the past few weeks:
Enjoy!
Skittles
(153,138 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)I can experience concerts that happened in the 60s and 70s that I never got to see live. It's a wonderful thing to see Chicago or Yes in their heyday.
CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)You can listen to just about anything on youtube!
I youtube!
Submariner
(12,503 posts)the day a radical right wing activist judge stopped the vote count and handed the country over to the republicans who didn't keep the country safe, lost both revenge wars, crushed the economy and doubled the national debt in just 8 years. If you're going to divide a country, stealing the vote is the way to do it.
Infants born today will be seeing unreal droughts with water wars and mass starvation deaths in poorer countries when they are in college years, hurricanes that will make today's storms seem tame, and daily summer temperatures in Florida and the deep south probably hitting 115 to 125 degrees, just like what is in Dubai and the rest of the Person Gulf today.
It will probably be in the 130 degree range in the Persian Gulf in 20-30 years, so today's grandkids will probably be seeing an exodus from mid east when they are in their 30s or 40s. Fun times ahead. At 73 I'm glad to miss the forthcoming misery.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,713 posts)ornotna
(10,798 posts)I worry for my kids and my grandson too.
Let's listen to some music together, my refuge as well.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)The real chalnge is the number of people on the right who have been so brainwashed by Fox & Russian propaganda that they have become untethered from reality. That appears to be new.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)Llike all who came before us, we make our way with what we've got, until we don't. The past is gone, the future isn't real, but that music.... what a gift!
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)and I share your feelings. I spend my time with genealogy for other folks.
DFW
(54,330 posts)Our daughters will be 37 and 35. As dual nationals, BOTH of their countries (Germany and the USA) will be divided for a long time time to come. Bot let it happen by not paying attention to creeping interference by powers playing a longer game than either country. But they live divided, themselves (one in New York, one near Frankfurt), and somehow do well in their chosen fields.
Soon, it will be their world, and theirs alone to try and manage, hoping to leave a place worth living in for their own children. Sure, we all doubt their generation will do any better, but there's nothing wrong with hoping. Just always keep in mind, there are powerful people out there whose countries are less well-off than we are, and will do anything to bring us to their level. It's easier for them. Full bellies tend not to start fights (not everyone is Dick Cheney).
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I love my life, but in a way it's kind of a relief to know that I don't have THAT much time remaining (statistically speaking). I do weep for what's ahead for my children and grandson.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I have pretty much stopped watching news programs. I come here for my news and to at least feel there are a few sane Americans left. I have been listening to my vinyl every day to stay sane.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,713 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,381 posts)in this country and the predominantly angry white males who have no hesitation in shooting up crowds of innocent people.
The country has always been divided. It was divided right from the start when almost 20% of residents--the Loyalists--did not want independence from England. It was divided in the Civil War. It was hesitant to get into another World War--after the first one--until the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. It was divided black and white through Jim Crow. It was divided during Vietnam.
No, it's the guns that really bother me and make me consider leaving. If I were 10 years younger, I think I'd be out of here IF that orange sack of $hit wins another four years in November. Plus, the angry white males with guns probably won't go away if he does lose.
For now, I spend less time watching the news. I plan trips. I enjoy walking to the ballet and the symphony from my apartment. I watch the dawn every morning and sometimes it is quite a show. I walk my dog. I read a lot.
But I do worry about the future of not only this country, but our planet.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Yes, we are indeed divided, because Republicans have departed from their longtime posturing about big central government, adhering to Constitution, law and order, fiscal responsibility, values, etc. More broadly, they have created (and continue to generate) a new reality that isnt based upon measurable facts whatsoever; rather, its whatever those currently in power wish it to be. And thats frankly insane.
Until Trump, Americans had never witnessed such a dangerous amassing of executive power. The ideals of a constitutional democratic republic have been utterly discarded.
The country is in uncharted territory now. A minority of zealots has learned how to control and concentrate power over the majority. The United States has its first truly fascist dictator.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)It will always be this way, but you probably know that.
Also immersed in music.