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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:52 AM Feb 2020

Trump's intel pick will blow up in his face as agencies revolt and leak the truth: Ex-CIA official



Trump’s intel pick will blow up in his face as agencies revolt and leak the truth: Ex-CIA official
Written by Tom Boggioni / Raw Story February 21, 2020


Appearing on CNN on Friday morning, former CIA case officer Phil Mudd said the selection of Ambassador Richard Grennell to be the acting Director of National Intelligence will likely blow up in the president’s face because he is not respected within the intelligence community who will seek to undercut him.

Speaking with hosts John Berman and Alisyn Camerota, Mudd first mocked Grennell, saying, “I tell you, this is taking me back to when I was a child. it’s like if I played the game of Battleship, I could be the secretary of defense — the guy knows nothing about intelligence.”

He then proceeded to explain what Grenell will likely face during what expected to be his brief tenure since it is unlikely he will be sent to the Senate for confirmation to remain in the job.

“There is an upside to this if you are an intel person, I’m going to be real cynical here. If you watch what Grenell said, he said I’m not going to be around for long — meaning he doesn’t want the job,” Mudd began. “Legally he can’t stay around that long. So if you’re an intel person you’re sitting there saying ‘I’m going to slow roll it, I’m not going to pay attention to what he says.”

“There’s a challenge there when staff comes in from the White House that stays beyond Grenell, there’s a problem and there are reports of that happening,” he explained. “First they’re going to slow roll him. Second is, what’s his ability to control the message? The information he gets on Russian hacking is going to come from people who have been around for 20 or 30 years. Is he going to change it before he goes to the Hill to testify? That’s going to get out in a leak.”

“And the last thing is, how do you control the directors of the intelligence agencies, the NSA particularly and the director of the CIA who will get out there in testimony and say stuff different than what Grenell says,” he added. “The system here is going to be interesting. I think it’ll undercut the choice for DNI.”


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Trump's intel pick will blow up in his face as agencies revolt and leak the truth: Ex-CIA official (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2020 OP
This dude is an apparatchik, a political officer, a spy for Trump. Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #1
How can he succeed in spying on professional spies? greymattermom Feb 2020 #2
he doesn't need to be a covert spy, perhaps I should have used the word "rat" or informer Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #4
Very uncomfortable with this attitude. Hangingon Feb 2020 #15
It is always okay for Americans to work against the interests of fascists, domestic or otherwise Brawndo Feb 2020 #31
No. No one elected the employees of the CIA. Hangingon Feb 2020 #34
And like most of his apparatchiks.... paleotn Feb 2020 #12
Yes, he cannot tolerate anyone smarter than he is for long. Hence the turnover and incompetence. Marcuse Feb 2020 #16
This is what I've been thinking...Trump will not be able to control the narrative ElementaryPenguin Feb 2020 #3
I'm going to be even more cynical awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #5
I don't think that's the case. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #8
Not that I don't believe you awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #9
Honestly, I don't have any links. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #10
Thanks awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #13
Here is one example. irisblue Feb 2020 #25
Here is one example irisblue Feb 2020 #24
When do these leaks begin? Before or after Putin helps the GOP coup? Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #6
Given everything that has happened, I thought the full Mueller report might be leaked. Lonestarblue Feb 2020 #21
I keep hoping. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #22
I would like to hope he is right JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #7
Let's hope so pandr32 Feb 2020 #11
Grenell likes tRump and has been a "gold card holder at tRump Hotel. BigmanPigman Feb 2020 #14
And how did that work out for him? Mme. Defarge Feb 2020 #26
there's loyalists and there's loyalists. maxsolomon Feb 2020 #27
Really hopeful about this. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #17
Please do so. muntrv Feb 2020 #18
Agency directors will "say stuff different than what Grenell says" gratuitous Feb 2020 #19
And I will add another of The Dick's quotes shanti Feb 2020 #30
The whole Bush II Reign of Error has largely disappeared gratuitous Feb 2020 #32
Underlings destroy an ignorant boss by documenting and doing exactly the stupid NCjack Feb 2020 #20
Forgive me for being skeptical; I'm not sure we can depend on this. Why hasn't it happened already? NBachers Feb 2020 #23
Feels like Grennell's basic task is to lie to Schiff. maxsolomon Feb 2020 #28
Trump and Republican enablers - all roads lead to Putin Las Vegas Mixx Feb 2020 #29
I've been waiting 4 long years. gldstwmn Feb 2020 #33

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. This dude is an apparatchik, a political officer, a spy for Trump.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:53 AM
Feb 2020

smaller gov't my @##, this is totalitarian centralized gov't.

Hangingon

(3,071 posts)
15. Very uncomfortable with this attitude.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:21 PM
Feb 2020

Is it okay for an agency to rebel if the appointed head is not to their liking. Are the career employees free to run the shop with out supervision by elected executive? That is wrong even if we don’t like the executive. CI A has had this reputation since creation.

Would this be alright if Dept. of Agriculture decided to undercut the Secretary? Or Interior? Would it be okay if Democrats were in power?

Hangingon

(3,071 posts)
34. No. No one elected the employees of the CIA.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 05:34 PM
Feb 2020

They do not get to label anyone a fascist and go rogue. Nor does any agency or department. That is anarchy.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
12. And like most of his apparatchiks....
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:06 PM
Feb 2020

hopelessly incompetent. I was thinking the other day, what would it be like if we had an IQ45 type president who was intelligent. Very intelligent. Who appointed intelligent people to posts to intelligently do his bidding. I like to point fingers and laugh at their stupidity as much as anyone, but that's probably the only thing keeping us from full on totalitarian rule in its first term.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
3. This is what I've been thinking...Trump will not be able to control the narrative
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:06 AM
Feb 2020

These guys will run circles around the Trump appointed know-nothings!

It's different with the evil Bill Barr. He's been Attorney General before, and knows how to navigate the system.

This is going to backfire big time on the Orange Emperor!

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
5. I'm going to be even more cynical
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:26 AM
Feb 2020

What if most of the intelligence officers are MAGAts and want to help trump?

There is very little non-partisan loyalty these days. I hope I'm wrong but it's definitely trying times for this country.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
9. Not that I don't believe you
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:54 AM
Feb 2020

but where have you seen that? I haven't seen any articles/news etc about the intelligence community liking someone or not.

Turin_C3PO

(13,960 posts)
10. Honestly, I don't have any links.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:56 AM
Feb 2020

I’m just going from my memory of reading such stuff. I could be wrong, who knows?

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
13. Thanks
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:10 PM
Feb 2020

I hope you're right. I was just being cynical as I always am with anything russiapublican/dump related.

When Giuliani got his scoop about the emails there was plenty of talk about quite a few MAGAts at the local FBI office if I remember correctly.

Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
21. Given everything that has happened, I thought the full Mueller report might be leaked.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:37 PM
Feb 2020

We need all the help we can get to take kick this mobster out of office.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
7. I would like to hope he is right
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:49 AM
Feb 2020

But I have no faith that they will not follow the Commander in Chief. None at all.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
14. Grenell likes tRump and has been a "gold card holder at tRump Hotel.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:18 PM
Feb 2020

I think he is a loyalist like Amb. Sondland was.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
17. Really hopeful about this.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:23 PM
Feb 2020

As far as the CIA, though, do we trust Gina Haspel? Isn't she sketchy?

Remember, Adam Schiff has been saying the intel agencies are hiding documents from Congress. How deep are they all in this?

EDIT: I do believe the FBI is in good hands for now.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. Agency directors will "say stuff different than what Grenell says"
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:24 PM
Feb 2020

In the words of Dick Cheney: So?

Grenell says one thing, an agency head says another, and the media (if they notice at all) will just homina-homina the contradiction away, and Trump will rag on and on about it at one of his little Nuremberg rallies, and Grenell will come out looking like the second coming of Wild Bill Donovan.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
30. And I will add another of The Dick's quotes
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:59 PM
Feb 2020

Go Fuck yourself. Funny, but have you heard a peep from him? I sure haven't. He's keeping his head down.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
32. The whole Bush II Reign of Error has largely disappeared
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:21 PM
Feb 2020

It's like we went directly from Clinton to Obama. Nobody knows why we have troops in Iraq or Afghanistan or why the budget surplus at the end of the Clinton administration vanished.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
20. Underlings destroy an ignorant boss by documenting and doing exactly the stupid
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:36 PM
Feb 2020

orders he gives. No feedback -- just do it. But, when he is luck and gives a "correct" instruction. For that one, they will lead him into a mine field of doubt and watch him struggle and ultimately reverse it.

NBachers

(17,099 posts)
23. Forgive me for being skeptical; I'm not sure we can depend on this. Why hasn't it happened already?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:45 PM
Feb 2020

Or, if it has happened, it still hasn't had much effect at stopping the dismantling of our nation.

maxsolomon

(33,298 posts)
28. Feels like Grennell's basic task is to lie to Schiff.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:15 PM
Feb 2020

Edit or suppress the information.

Congress is Trump DGAF about anything but what Congress is told.

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