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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 08:33 AM Sep 2012

Make no mistake: They are going for total control of the government

Yes, Romney really wants to win. He's just a shit candidate. Anyone who thinks the repubs aren't going for it and hard, is living in a dream world. They'll hold the House. The only question is; will they take the White House and the Senate.

Forget Mitt Romney. Karl Rove's Eyes Are on the Senate
By Sheelah Kolhatkar on September 06, 2012

As politicians, delegates, and thousands of reporters at the Republican and Democratic conventions obsessed over who will be elected president, a parallel convention of sorts was taking place in hotel dining rooms and private clubs around Tampa and Charlotte. There, party kingmakers met in secret with the wealthy backers who are increasingly driving this election to discuss an equally urgent question: Which party will control the U.S. Senate?

<snip>

No one makes this case more persuasively than Karl Rove. At a private breakfast briefing in Tampa, Rove—the most powerful unelected Republican—told about 70 of the biggest donors to his American Crossroads super PAC, “We’ve got to get this done to get Mitt Romney and the Senate, to repeal Obamacare on Day One!”

This rare look at the mechanics of fundraising and electoral strategy was not intended for reporters. I was invited as the guest of a financier who is a significant Republican donor. The financier knew I was a journalist. At no point was I presented with, nor did I agree to, restrictions regarding the information I heard. Upon my arrival at the breakfast, I was not asked if I was a journalist. I gave my name, identified the person who had invited me, was handed a wristband and ushered into the dining room. American Crossroads disputes this version of events, but a spokesman declined to comment further.



<snip>

The Republicans need four seats to gain a Senate majority, Rove continued. He felt “really good” about Nebraska and was optimistic about North Dakota, even though Democrats have a strong candidate in former state Attorney General Heidi Heitkamp. In Wisconsin, former Governor Tommy Thompson “has an excellent shot to win—he has a quirky, cross-party appeal.” Virginia is going to be tight. Of those, Rove declared, “we can win three.”

New Mexico, Hawaii, and Connecticut are “longer shots,” Rove went on, but “I think we’ve got a shot to take at least one of those three.” In Connecticut, Rove noted that Linda McMahon, the former head of World Wrestling Entertainment, whom he had once written off, was running a “really smart campaign.” And the state, he noted happily, had moved to the right. “Those affluent, socially liberal, economically conservative people in Fairfield County and the New York suburbs have finally figured out that their pocketbooks matter more than abortion.”

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-09-06/forget-mitt-romney-dot-karl-roves-eyes-are-on-the-senate

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Make no mistake: They are going for total control of the government (Original Post) cali Sep 2012 OP
Beyond the presidency, we've got to sweep, in order to end the obstructionist tactics they've been mother earth Sep 2012 #1
Karl is deluding himself about Connecticut. RagAss Sep 2012 #2
Someday ... Auggie Sep 2012 #3
be still my heart. cali Sep 2012 #4
photo taken seconds later... alterfurz Sep 2012 #14
If there is any man that deserves jail it's Rove. He has hurt so many people on both sides. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #23
Their first dream was a permanent Republican majority CanonRay Sep 2012 #5
This is my understanding, brazen tactics siligut Sep 2012 #12
Yes they are franmarz Sep 2012 #6
Anyone who thinks they won't flood Missouri with $$$$ the last two weeks of October... stlsaxman Sep 2012 #7
True, but... LibertyBell7 Sep 2012 #24
Remember- we're talking out-state Missouri here. stlsaxman Sep 2012 #29
Time is running out.... chuckstevens Sep 2012 #8
Corporations are not going to like that. Fuddnik Sep 2012 #9
I saw a projection that they'd take the Senate. Very distressing. I hope that's wrong. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #10
And the SC.... Avalux Sep 2012 #11
The poor, old, disabled, weak and infirm will quietly disappear siligut Sep 2012 #17
I can't help but think of the 2000 and 2004 elections davidthegnome Sep 2012 #13
Agreed LibertyBell7 Sep 2012 #27
Pure evil. Faygo Kid Sep 2012 #15
The GOP would end elections. blkmusclmachine Sep 2012 #16
Or they will keep just up the pretense we are seeing now, at least for a while siligut Sep 2012 #21
I wish Obama would mention... AlbertCat Sep 2012 #18
Republicans have gone so far to the right.... sevenseas Sep 2012 #19
Free Market Capitalism, and profit, at the expense of human well-being Auggie Sep 2012 #22
Yup. Most of the time, I call it "the reich-wing." TahitiNut Sep 2012 #26
Rove mentioned Linda McMahon maryellen99 Sep 2012 #20
Every active member of DU should assist the Senate Candidate closest to their state SaveAmerica Sep 2012 #25
always the pessimist? MjolnirTime Sep 2012 #28
They won't stop until they have a one-party country, like the old Soviet Union LongTomH Sep 2012 #30

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
1. Beyond the presidency, we've got to sweep, in order to end the obstructionist tactics they've been
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 08:54 AM
Sep 2012

using to strangle this country. They are sick & filled with hate, they will destroy what's left of democracy if they have the numbers.

K & R

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
23. If there is any man that deserves jail it's Rove. He has hurt so many people on both sides.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:59 AM
Sep 2012

He is a dirty player.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
5. Their first dream was a permanent Republican majority
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:30 AM
Sep 2012

but that Rovian fantasy died with Katrina and the economic collapse. Their policies were just too fucked up to win that majority.

Their second dream is to win one more time, then change the rules of the game so they can never be taken out of power. Free elections will be a thing of history.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
12. This is my understanding, brazen tactics
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:23 AM
Sep 2012

But from what we are seeing, it actually seems feasible.

stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
7. Anyone who thinks they won't flood Missouri with $$$$ the last two weeks of October...
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:53 AM
Sep 2012

has another think coming.

THEY WANT THE SENATE, BAD!

LibertyBell7

(22 posts)
24. True, but...
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:23 AM
Sep 2012

Our President, his campaign, and the entire spectacle of messaging we just witnessed in Charlotte demonstrated the main available antidote to that sick flood of cash: Those who define the opponent in a political cage match first can counter all following messaging.

"Lyin' Ryan," Romney as Flip-Flopper-in-Chief, and the whole Corporazi crew of the new skinhead Republican Party are greedy, power hungry toadies belonging to Wall Street. That's already out in the ether, and it's up to us all to ensure it stays out there through every conversation, email, tweet and water cooler chat... . If it becomes "common knowledge" to the 5-6% of the public who are not yet set in concrete which way they will vote (or whether they will vote) that the Corporazis are trying to buy the government, then when the inevitable flood starts, there's a decent chance the size of the flood may turn them off — or, even better yet, anger them.

Finally, we have to do every single thing we can to ensure voting turnout is high, and I mean breaking-the-records high. That's our flood, and the last, best hope we have. We can only save our democracy, you know, through democracy.

It's worth remembering that candidate Obama's 2008 chant was not, "Yes I can." It was "Yes we can!" And we can.

stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
29. Remember- we're talking out-state Missouri here.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 01:54 PM
Sep 2012

Saint Louis, Kansas and Columbia can barely win for the Dems. With a flood of money in the last two weeks- they could get enough of the knuckledragger vote to pull it out.

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
8. Time is running out....
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:59 AM
Sep 2012

There is a desperation on the part of the GOP that is truly scary! When you're a political party that does not like Gays, African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Union members, Women, Progressives, and the few remnants of the New Deal, WHO THE HELL is left to vote Republican, except grumpy old white people, dweebs who misinterpreted Adam Smith in college, and low info voters who listen to Rush Blowhard?

The conservatives days are numbered sheerly on demographics and they know it. Aside form control of Congress, they must capture the White House so that Romney can appoint Koch Brother approve justices to the Supreme Court. That will they lasting conservative impact on this nation.

FIGHT LIKE HELL FOR OBAMA and the DEMOCRATS in CONGRESS AND DONATE TIME and MONEY THIS ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
9. Corporations are not going to like that.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:04 AM
Sep 2012

They already have total control of the government, and they ain't gonna give it up!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. I saw a projection that they'd take the Senate. Very distressing. I hope that's wrong.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:06 AM
Sep 2012

I'm going to start following that.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
11. And the SC....
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:08 AM
Sep 2012

If Rove gets his wish and Romney appoints a couple of SC justices, they'll officially have the totalitarian jesus nation they dream about.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
17. The poor, old, disabled, weak and infirm will quietly disappear
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:34 AM
Sep 2012

Mormon mind-control will be broadcast 24/7 from Clear Channel and other RW owned media outlets. Able-bodies will be sent to Syria and Iran to back-up Blackwater and the Halliburton take-overs.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
13. I can't help but think of the 2000 and 2004 elections
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:23 AM
Sep 2012

There is more than ample evidence that there was foul play. I'm not sure how much is known about the electronic voting machines and what part they played in this, but I have read that they are simple for hackers to toy around with.

Now if the Presidency can be bought... and/or you can cheat your way into the highest office of the Country... it stands to reason that Senators could also do this.

So, I'll be using paper ballots for my votes and hoping they don't get "lost", or "misplaced". I live in a very conservative area... though I would say that I think the older folks up here are generally trustworthy, regardless of party. I don't though, have enough faith in that to use an electronic voting machine.

Romney IS a shit candidate. I think that winning in the races to come will also depend a lot on how honest we can keep our opponents.

LibertyBell7

(22 posts)
27. Agreed
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:44 AM
Sep 2012

However, we can't do very much about making an inherently anti-democracy Corporazi "honest" about the democracy s/he wants to end. Our main tactic in this un-civil war is to do every single thing we can to flood the polls. We need to make the 2006 and 2008 turnouts appear as just indicators of a rising trend toward democratic participation and 2010 the anomaly.

Paraphrasing Thom Hartman's everyday show closing, "Tag! We're it!" Democracy starts and ends with us.

It's up to us to make this happen or let it all fall.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
15. Pure evil.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:33 AM
Sep 2012

The harm this man has done to this country has been equaled by only a few. He has Issues.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
21. Or they will keep just up the pretense we are seeing now, at least for a while
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:45 AM
Sep 2012

There is more to be done before they can breakdown our beliefs and base values enough so that they won't have a rebellion to quell. They have the Glenn Beck crazies and the teabaggers already, but research has shown there are some people who are resistant to mind-manipulation, those people being Democrats.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
18. I wish Obama would mention...
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:37 AM
Sep 2012

.... "It's Congress that makes laws." and that winning the House and Senate for Dems would put a damper on the obstruction.


(or has he? I just haven't noticed)

sevenseas

(114 posts)
19. Republicans have gone so far to the right....
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:38 AM
Sep 2012

Republicans have gone so far to the right....Instead of "THE RIGHT"....It needs to be called, "THE REICH"

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
26. Yup. Most of the time, I call it "the reich-wing."
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:34 AM
Sep 2012

I don't regard it as hyberbole to call it fascism. Not at all. The "Nazi" epithet would be (marginally) hyperbole, but today's GOP is most certainly fascist in every respect ... FAR, far more so than any sane person could call the (Democratic) Left "Socialism" or, even more rediculously, "Communism." Hell, I'd be happy of we had a Social Democratic Party.

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
20. Rove mentioned Linda McMahon
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:40 AM
Sep 2012

God help us if she wins. She'll be pushed as a rising star in the GOP. I don't live in CT but I don't want Vince McMahon anywhere near the government.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
25. Every active member of DU should assist the Senate Candidate closest to their state
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:33 AM
Sep 2012

If someone could start a thread with these Senate races and the candidates who need help (including their campaign contact info), DUers can pick one and spend the next 2 month helping.

Easy to do long distance. Ask the campaign folks to e-mail call lists to you and you can call from home. If you don't want to use your personal phone you can start a gmail account just for political phone calls and use the free phone number connected with gmail and call directly from your computer. All you need is ear buds with microphone.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
30. They won't stop until they have a one-party country, like the old Soviet Union
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 02:05 PM
Sep 2012

I've thought that for a long time!

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