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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMake no mistake: They are going for total control of the government
Yes, Romney really wants to win. He's just a shit candidate. Anyone who thinks the repubs aren't going for it and hard, is living in a dream world. They'll hold the House. The only question is; will they take the White House and the Senate.
Forget Mitt Romney. Karl Rove's Eyes Are on the Senate
By Sheelah Kolhatkar on September 06, 2012
As politicians, delegates, and thousands of reporters at the Republican and Democratic conventions obsessed over who will be elected president, a parallel convention of sorts was taking place in hotel dining rooms and private clubs around Tampa and Charlotte. There, party kingmakers met in secret with the wealthy backers who are increasingly driving this election to discuss an equally urgent question: Which party will control the U.S. Senate?
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No one makes this case more persuasively than Karl Rove. At a private breakfast briefing in Tampa, Rovethe most powerful unelected Republicantold about 70 of the biggest donors to his American Crossroads super PAC, Weve got to get this done to get Mitt Romney and the Senate, to repeal Obamacare on Day One!
This rare look at the mechanics of fundraising and electoral strategy was not intended for reporters. I was invited as the guest of a financier who is a significant Republican donor. The financier knew I was a journalist. At no point was I presented with, nor did I agree to, restrictions regarding the information I heard. Upon my arrival at the breakfast, I was not asked if I was a journalist. I gave my name, identified the person who had invited me, was handed a wristband and ushered into the dining room. American Crossroads disputes this version of events, but a spokesman declined to comment further.
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The Republicans need four seats to gain a Senate majority, Rove continued. He felt really good about Nebraska and was optimistic about North Dakota, even though Democrats have a strong candidate in former state Attorney General Heidi Heitkamp. In Wisconsin, former Governor Tommy Thompson has an excellent shot to winhe has a quirky, cross-party appeal. Virginia is going to be tight. Of those, Rove declared, we can win three.
New Mexico, Hawaii, and Connecticut are longer shots, Rove went on, but I think weve got a shot to take at least one of those three. In Connecticut, Rove noted that Linda McMahon, the former head of World Wrestling Entertainment, whom he had once written off, was running a really smart campaign. And the state, he noted happily, had moved to the right. Those affluent, socially liberal, economically conservative people in Fairfield County and the New York suburbs have finally figured out that their pocketbooks matter more than abortion.
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-09-06/forget-mitt-romney-dot-karl-roves-eyes-are-on-the-senate
mother earth
(6,002 posts)using to strangle this country. They are sick & filled with hate, they will destroy what's left of democracy if they have the numbers.
K & R
RagAss
(13,832 posts)Auggie
(31,167 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)alterfurz
(2,474 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)He is a dirty player.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)but that Rovian fantasy died with Katrina and the economic collapse. Their policies were just too fucked up to win that majority.
Their second dream is to win one more time, then change the rules of the game so they can never be taken out of power. Free elections will be a thing of history.
siligut
(12,272 posts)But from what we are seeing, it actually seems feasible.
franmarz
(358 posts)They damn sure are.
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)has another think coming.
THEY WANT THE SENATE, BAD!
LibertyBell7
(22 posts)Our President, his campaign, and the entire spectacle of messaging we just witnessed in Charlotte demonstrated the main available antidote to that sick flood of cash: Those who define the opponent in a political cage match first can counter all following messaging.
"Lyin' Ryan," Romney as Flip-Flopper-in-Chief, and the whole Corporazi crew of the new skinhead Republican Party are greedy, power hungry toadies belonging to Wall Street. That's already out in the ether, and it's up to us all to ensure it stays out there through every conversation, email, tweet and water cooler chat... . If it becomes "common knowledge" to the 5-6% of the public who are not yet set in concrete which way they will vote (or whether they will vote) that the Corporazis are trying to buy the government, then when the inevitable flood starts, there's a decent chance the size of the flood may turn them off or, even better yet, anger them.
Finally, we have to do every single thing we can to ensure voting turnout is high, and I mean breaking-the-records high. That's our flood, and the last, best hope we have. We can only save our democracy, you know, through democracy.
It's worth remembering that candidate Obama's 2008 chant was not, "Yes I can." It was "Yes we can!" And we can.
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)Saint Louis, Kansas and Columbia can barely win for the Dems. With a flood of money in the last two weeks- they could get enough of the knuckledragger vote to pull it out.
chuckstevens
(1,201 posts)There is a desperation on the part of the GOP that is truly scary! When you're a political party that does not like Gays, African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Union members, Women, Progressives, and the few remnants of the New Deal, WHO THE HELL is left to vote Republican, except grumpy old white people, dweebs who misinterpreted Adam Smith in college, and low info voters who listen to Rush Blowhard?
The conservatives days are numbered sheerly on demographics and they know it. Aside form control of Congress, they must capture the White House so that Romney can appoint Koch Brother approve justices to the Supreme Court. That will they lasting conservative impact on this nation.
FIGHT LIKE HELL FOR OBAMA and the DEMOCRATS in CONGRESS AND DONATE TIME and MONEY THIS ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)They already have total control of the government, and they ain't gonna give it up!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I'm going to start following that.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)If Rove gets his wish and Romney appoints a couple of SC justices, they'll officially have the totalitarian jesus nation they dream about.
siligut
(12,272 posts)Mormon mind-control will be broadcast 24/7 from Clear Channel and other RW owned media outlets. Able-bodies will be sent to Syria and Iran to back-up Blackwater and the Halliburton take-overs.
davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)There is more than ample evidence that there was foul play. I'm not sure how much is known about the electronic voting machines and what part they played in this, but I have read that they are simple for hackers to toy around with.
Now if the Presidency can be bought... and/or you can cheat your way into the highest office of the Country... it stands to reason that Senators could also do this.
So, I'll be using paper ballots for my votes and hoping they don't get "lost", or "misplaced". I live in a very conservative area... though I would say that I think the older folks up here are generally trustworthy, regardless of party. I don't though, have enough faith in that to use an electronic voting machine.
Romney IS a shit candidate. I think that winning in the races to come will also depend a lot on how honest we can keep our opponents.
LibertyBell7
(22 posts)However, we can't do very much about making an inherently anti-democracy Corporazi "honest" about the democracy s/he wants to end. Our main tactic in this un-civil war is to do every single thing we can to flood the polls. We need to make the 2006 and 2008 turnouts appear as just indicators of a rising trend toward democratic participation and 2010 the anomaly.
Paraphrasing Thom Hartman's everyday show closing, "Tag! We're it!" Democracy starts and ends with us.
It's up to us to make this happen or let it all fall.
Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)The harm this man has done to this country has been equaled by only a few. He has Issues.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)siligut
(12,272 posts)There is more to be done before they can breakdown our beliefs and base values enough so that they won't have a rebellion to quell. They have the Glenn Beck crazies and the teabaggers already, but research has shown there are some people who are resistant to mind-manipulation, those people being Democrats.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts).... "It's Congress that makes laws." and that winning the House and Senate for Dems would put a damper on the obstruction.
(or has he? I just haven't noticed)
sevenseas
(114 posts)Republicans have gone so far to the right....Instead of "THE RIGHT"....It needs to be called, "THE REICH"
Auggie
(31,167 posts)TahitiNut
(71,611 posts)I don't regard it as hyberbole to call it fascism. Not at all. The "Nazi" epithet would be (marginally) hyperbole, but today's GOP is most certainly fascist in every respect ... FAR, far more so than any sane person could call the (Democratic) Left "Socialism" or, even more rediculously, "Communism." Hell, I'd be happy of we had a Social Democratic Party.
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)God help us if she wins. She'll be pushed as a rising star in the GOP. I don't live in CT but I don't want Vince McMahon anywhere near the government.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)If someone could start a thread with these Senate races and the candidates who need help (including their campaign contact info), DUers can pick one and spend the next 2 month helping.
Easy to do long distance. Ask the campaign folks to e-mail call lists to you and you can call from home. If you don't want to use your personal phone you can start a gmail account just for political phone calls and use the free phone number connected with gmail and call directly from your computer. All you need is ear buds with microphone.
MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)LongTomH
(8,636 posts)I've thought that for a long time!