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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsArctic ice melting at 'amazing' speed, scientists find
BBC:
Scientists in the Arctic are warning that this summer's record-breaking melt is part of an accelerating trend with profound implications.
Norwegian researchers report that the sea ice is becoming significantly thinner and more vulnerable.
Last month, the annual thaw of the region's floating ice reached the lowest level since satellite monitoring began, more than 30 years ago.
It is thought the scale of the decline may even affect Europe's weather.
The melt is set to continue for at least another week - the peak is usually reached in mid-September - while temperatures here remain above freezing. ....................(more)
The complete piece is at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19508906
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)It'll be interesting from here on...
Esse Quam Videri
(685 posts)How long before it is completely gone? How many animals will perish because there is no longer any ice in the summer?
jimlup
(7,968 posts)very scary shit... I'm alarmed and I'm trained as a scientist to take a cautious view of data.
Esse Quam Videri
(685 posts)Will we see extinction of certain species? Polar bears come to mind? Also, is there similar melting underway in the Arctic? I seem to remember about a year or so back about a huge ice sheet that broke off down there but what about overall melting?
jimlup
(7,968 posts)(and while I'm a scientist I'm specifically not a climate scientist) it will be catastrophic. The effects on the Northern Hemisphere will be quite dramatic at many levels. I'm also now quite concerned about a locked carbon tipping point due to both methane clathrates and also previously frozen peat bogs.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)the earth has a tendency to ice ages, and we're coming out of one now. Having said that, she speed at which all this is happening is breathtaking and very alarming. It's very difficult to see how we can avoid a colossal number of extinctions.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)about 56million years ago. I believe it is called the Younger-Drier (sp?) but not being a climate scientist I may have misspelled it. Anyway during that time there was a dramatic spike in CO2 and also heat. It was a very short event and my understanding is that climate scientists believe that it resulted from the sudden release of previously trapped carbon.
Anyway if that is what we are going through frankly that's very very bad.
hatrack
(59,572 posts)Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum.
The most extreme change in Earth surface conditions during the Cenozoic Era began just after the temporal boundary between the Paleocene and Eocene epochs around 55.0 million years ago. This event, the PaleoceneEocene Thermal Maximum (PETM, alternatively "Eocene thermal maximum 1" (ETM1), and formerly known as the "Initial Eocene" or "Late Paleocene Thermal Maximum",[1] (IETM/LPTM)), was associated with rapid (in geological terms) global warming, profound changes in ecosystems, and major perturbations in the carbon cycle.
Global temperatures rose by about 6 °C (11 °F) over a period of approximately 20,000 years. That is a 0.0003 °C (.00055 °F) increase per year. Many benthic foraminifera and terrestrial mammals became extinct, but numerous modern mammalian orders emerged. The event is linked to a prominent negative excursion in carbon stable isotope (?13C) records from across the globe, and dissolution of carbonate deposited on all ocean basins. The latter observations strongly suggest that a massive input of 13C-depleted carbon entered the hydrosphere or atmosphere at the start of the PETM. Recently, geoscientists have begun to investigate the PETM to better understand the fate and transport of increasing greenhouse-gas emissions over millennial time scales.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Thermal_Maximum
Of course, it took 20,000 years for temperatures to go up 6C back then. It's starting to look like we'll be able to do the same thing in about 100 years. Oops.
Thanks.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)These e-mails from leading climatologists make clear efforts to use statistical tricks to distort their findings and intentionally mislead the public on the issue of climate change. - Paul Ryan
sibelian
(7,804 posts)I can't relate to it.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)And probably not in a good way.
countryjake
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