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Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:16 PM

Medicare For All

A recent article on Salon shows that Multiple Studies assert that Medicare For All is much cheaper than the Public Option pushed by some Moderates-

https://www.salon.com/2020/multiple-studies-show-medicare-for-all-would-be-cheaper-than-public-option-pushed-by-moderates/

[Sorry, I am having trouble with the link. If you go to Salon and search "Medicare For All Cheaper", you will get the article.]

https://www.salon.com

The point of the article is that Multiple Studies have shown Medicare For All is cheaper than the Public Option (Medicare For All Who Want It), and not just cheaper, but much cheaper. So people harassing Bernie for costs should point out that the Public Option pushed by his opponents is much more expensive than Medicare For All.

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Progressive2020 Feb 2020 OP
guillaumeb Feb 2020 #1
corbettkroehler Feb 2020 #6
guillaumeb Feb 2020 #7
safeinOhio Feb 2020 #2
Rebl2 Feb 2020 #3
Caliman73 Feb 2020 #5
dpibel Feb 2020 #8
Rebl2 Feb 2020 #9
House of Roberts Feb 2020 #4

Response to Progressive2020 (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:18 PM

1. But Medicare for All does not make contributions to politicians,

and MFA does not spend millions to frighten voters.

And the fact that Canada spends 1/2 per capita as does the US, with better outcomes, seems to not be generally known in the US.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:46 PM

6. How Right You Are!

Here's a video supplement to the outstanding points you raised.

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Response to corbettkroehler (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:50 PM

7. Thank you.

I am from Canada, and most of my family remains there. I find it sad to hear so many arguments here that the US system is better, and that the US could never afford single payer, which is cheaper everywhere it is implemented.

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Response to Progressive2020 (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:19 PM

2. cost as compared to GNP is way cheaper.

Unless you ask Insurance, hospitals and others hanging on that tit.
This is the DU member formerly known as safeinOhio.

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Response to Progressive2020 (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:38 PM

3. Seriously doubt

they would cover my $19000 biological drug. They donít now. My employer insurance does. Just saying.

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:43 PM

5. They would likely do so if they could negotiate the price down.

As of now, Medicare, the largest payer for medical services, is legally prohibited from negotiating medicine prices on behalf of their customers. Private insurers are not barred from negotiations and do so regularly.

If Medicare was the only payer for services, then they would likely have the power to tell drug companies how much they are willing to pay for medications and it would likely bring down the price of the medication you need.

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:51 PM

8. Honest question

Do you know (or can you find out) how much that drug costs in other countries?

I'm not disputing anything you say. But, in general, pharmaceuticals are much cheaper outside the US. Would be interested in knowing if that's the case for this drug.

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Response to dpibel (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:21 PM

9. I take

Enbrel for RA. It has to be refrigerated during shipping and needs to get here within 24 hours. Doubt it could be sent here from some other country in a timely manner. I looked up what it cost in Canada and it cost between $25000 and $72000 a year. Iím fortunate to have federal employee insurance that pays the majority of it. I take one shot a week. If I get sick, I canít take it because the drug along with another drug I have to take, suppress my immune system. The other drug is methotrexate which is used to treat cancer. It has been used to treat RA for many years. I have taken it for 35 years. Luckily it is fairly cheap. I like my health insurance, and was told not to get rid of it because Medicare or supplement insurance will in no way cover it as well as my insurance I have now. Now maybe you understand my fear of losing my employer insurance.

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Response to Progressive2020 (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:39 PM

4. Based on recent reporting

I expect Chief Justice Roberts to try to overturn the ACA. They don't want to hear the case this year, and hand the Dems more to run on than they already have. If Roberts thought SCOTUS would uphold the ACA, there would be no need to wait.
Once the ACA is struck down, there won't be anything to have as an option, public or otherwise.

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