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RandySF

(58,511 posts)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:48 AM Sep 2012

Don't get too excited about Jennifer Granholm.

She gave a great speech at the convention, but she did almost nothing when she was governor. I lived Michigan during her first term. Sure she had Republican opposition, but se never FOUGHT for anything or anyone.She may have given great presentations, but she was ultimately an empty suit.

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Don't get too excited about Jennifer Granholm. (Original Post) RandySF Sep 2012 OP
This stinks Randy. DURHAM D Sep 2012 #1
My agenda... RandySF Sep 2012 #3
Selfish much? I thought the Conservatives had that market cornered. MjolnirTime Sep 2012 #16
What you have to show for it is the fact that Michigan GOP has gone full fascist without her JaneyVee Sep 2012 #34
I seriously disagree, Randy catbyte Sep 2012 #29
I think you meant to respond to Randy not me DURHAM D Sep 2012 #37
glad to hear others speak up. i didnt want to be disappointed. i hear people say obama did "nuthin'" seabeyond Sep 2012 #39
I remember one of her constituents who really disliked her. ananda Sep 2012 #2
Well I've lived in Michigan all my life. I'll take her supposed do-nothing over MichiganVote Sep 2012 #4
You know she would have lost in 2006 in not for the Democratic wave. RandySF Sep 2012 #6
She won b/c the opponent was Scamway DeVos,56-42% is a big spread. MichiganVote Sep 2012 #18
I just found an extra "Don't Dick With Michigan" bumpersticker, lol catbyte Sep 2012 #32
You could still use from the state of things :) MichiganVote Sep 2012 #43
Snyder cost us 1800 a year, thanks to his taxing our Pension. Granholm cost us zero. sarcasmo Sep 2012 #33
Snyder costing me 3% now plus an added 5-8% PLUS 20% health care. MichiganVote Sep 2012 #44
Guess she was so bad she was elected twice for governor. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #5
We Texans have elected Rick Perry thrice. sadbear Sep 2012 #7
My sympathy Progressive dog Sep 2012 #14
That fact that your state is a gulton for punishment say it all, LOL. I would have thought southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #36
Gee, that's peppy. nt. Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #8
Couldn't Agree More. Octafish Sep 2012 #9
David Bonior is a great guy. I had the chance to sit down to dinner with him WCGreen Sep 2012 #20
She did reorganize IT in the state Taverner Sep 2012 #10
Granholm is anti-medical Cannabis. tridim Sep 2012 #11
I'm sorry to hear this. I had high hopes for her. Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #12
Why wouldn't we get excited? Progressive dog Sep 2012 #13
Nothing.. RandySF Sep 2012 #15
I wouldn't exactly say she did "nothing" fredamae Sep 2012 #17
When "Did nothing" is a complaint about a popular politician, often as not... TreasonousBastard Sep 2012 #19
Thank you. Skidmore Sep 2012 #21
I thought she was a great govenor cyberspirit Sep 2012 #22
Her speech was great, she sucks on Current and she's against access to medical marijuana Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #23
I'm sure I'm the only one on DU had to mute her ridiculous screaming. It was Howard Dean one more monmouth Sep 2012 #24
So did you have an opinion about anything she had to say or Skidmore Sep 2012 #25
I muted her. n/t monmouth Sep 2012 #28
I have watched it 5 times. DURHAM D Sep 2012 #38
if you muted her, how can you have an opinion of what her speech was about? nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #40
I can read. n/t monmouth Sep 2012 #42
I didn't like that speech all that much anyway. Pterodactyl Sep 2012 #26
no, she doesnt. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #41
If you say so. Pterodactyl Sep 2012 #45
Thank you! Union Scribe Sep 2012 #27
Well, despite all these negative comments, RebelOne Sep 2012 #30
Okay. LWolf Sep 2012 #31
She took a lot of heat from republicans, B Calm Sep 2012 #35

RandySF

(58,511 posts)
3. My agenda...
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:52 AM
Sep 2012

Is the time and money I put into her election in 2002 with nothing to show for it in terms of accomplishments.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
34. What you have to show for it is the fact that Michigan GOP has gone full fascist without her
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:16 PM
Sep 2012

It seems she was most likely fighting harder than you think.

catbyte

(34,341 posts)
29. I seriously disagree, Randy
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:11 PM
Sep 2012

She came in to try to clean up Engler's mess. She wasn't a dictator for crying out loud. I smell an alterior motive. I've lived in Michigan all my life and the first governor I remember is Romney. Don't give me that shit about how she never did anything. She was constantly fighting and blocking the very crap that is decimating our rights right now.

Diane
Anishinaabe in MI

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
39. glad to hear others speak up. i didnt want to be disappointed. i hear people say obama did "nuthin'"
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:38 PM
Sep 2012

i know all he did so i dont need help putting things in perspective. i an glad i can still be thrilled with the woman. not that i wouldnt have been anyway.

i LOVED her speech.

ananda

(28,837 posts)
2. I remember one of her constituents who really disliked her.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:50 AM
Sep 2012

And I could see her point of view at the time.

Maybe she'll improve with the current Dem momentum!

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
4. Well I've lived in Michigan all my life. I'll take her supposed do-nothing over
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:52 AM
Sep 2012

the Engler gut and spend tax dollars for the monied, rob public pensions because he couldn't add or subtract as well as the current crop of neanderthal build a bridge to Canada for free shitheads.

Sorry, can't support the idea that Granholm did nothing. The people of Michigan did elect her twice.

RandySF

(58,511 posts)
6. You know she would have lost in 2006 in not for the Democratic wave.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:54 AM
Sep 2012

ANYTHING is an improvement over Engler and Snyder. But she was in bad shape heading into 2006 and the wave saved her.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
44. Snyder costing me 3% now plus an added 5-8% PLUS 20% health care.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:09 PM
Sep 2012

Because of course I belong to a teachers union and we're all making so much money.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
36. That fact that your state is a gulton for punishment say it all, LOL. I would have thought
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:42 PM
Sep 2012

when he openned his mouth and shown how dumb he was would have been enough the second time. But three times good god.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. Couldn't Agree More.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:01 PM
Sep 2012

Nice person. Great family. Fantastic speech at DNC.

As Gov., she was there going through the motions. The Big Money was protected, from Nuke Inc to the Wayne County Airport crew.

Ad for Michigan DEMs, we could've gone with David Bonior. The Big Money backed...Jenn.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
20. David Bonior is a great guy. I had the chance to sit down to dinner with him
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 01:41 PM
Sep 2012

back in after his district was redrawn.

He was in Cleveland to talk to some people and I was invited to the gathering. He was fun, engaging and we ended up in a lounge with Karaoke and he got up to sing.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
11. Granholm is anti-medical Cannabis.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:08 PM
Sep 2012


Her speech was excellent, but I worry when I hear rumors of her being considered for AG.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
12. I'm sorry to hear this. I had high hopes for her.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:08 PM
Sep 2012

Maybe she couldn't do much because she was stymied by their ReThug congress and what their voters wanted. Maybe she could do lots better working for Dems.

Progressive dog

(6,899 posts)
13. Why wouldn't we get excited?
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:10 PM
Sep 2012

She's not running for office and she was there to support the Democratic party and the President. She is no longer governor of Michigan and I see no specifics in your critique of her time in office.
Understand that I don't believe that most DUers are from Michigan; there are 50 states and many more governors and ex-governors. If you actually have specifics that have caused your dislike of her, please provide them.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
19. When "Did nothing" is a complaint about a popular politician, often as not...
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 01:34 PM
Sep 2012

it means "didn't do what I wanted about two or three things really important to me."

That may or may not be the case here, but it looks like she managed to solve some budget problems without blood or dumping more on the poor, brought in new industry to help with unemployment, and kept the state running against humongous Republican opposition and stonewalling.

Besides, that was a Republican talking point in her second campaign-- they stonewalled her and then complained she got nothing done. They lost mightily, it might be noted.

Kinda like situation the President is in. Some people, even around here, don't like him because they say he's done "nothing."

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
21. Thank you.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 01:44 PM
Sep 2012

I think the Rs are worried about her presence even though she can't run for president. She's a smart and strong woman who knows how to command attention.

cyberspirit

(67 posts)
22. I thought she was a great govenor
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 01:53 PM
Sep 2012

and she certainly wasn't an empty suit. Perhaps you need to do some research.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
23. Her speech was great, she sucks on Current and she's against access to medical marijuana
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 02:39 PM
Sep 2012

so sure, lively speech. Big whoop.

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
24. I'm sure I'm the only one on DU had to mute her ridiculous screaming. It was Howard Dean one more
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 03:53 PM
Sep 2012

time. She loves the attention and the limelight but her greatest achievement at the convention was head cheerleader

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
25. So did you have an opinion about anything she had to say or
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 03:56 PM
Sep 2012

are you hear to tear away at two strong Democrats?

DURHAM D

(32,606 posts)
38. I have watched it 5 times.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:37 PM
Sep 2012

Have also sent it to friends that have watched and shared with others.

I loved it.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
30. Well, despite all these negative comments,
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:11 PM
Sep 2012

I like her and think her speech was fantastic. And I watch her show every night.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
35. She took a lot of heat from republicans,
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:22 PM
Sep 2012

so why are you piling on? I would have loved her as governor of Indiana. This damn republican fool that we have wants to privatize everything. Hell he even sold our Indiana Toll Road to an Australian company. We're now a Right to Work for Less state too.

Egad. . you don't know how good you had it up there with Granholm!

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