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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 03:54 PM Sep 2012

A Harvard-educated lawyer tried to talk me into being a Republican today.

I've known this guy for a few years.

He had just come from watching 2016, the movie. He's a very smart guy. A Catholic, who is generous and kind to neighbors and acquaintances. He gives freely of his time, and coaches little league ball and mentors many youths.

He's also racist. Spent a good deal of his life in Richmond.

Told me that he is becoming more liberal, but then began to make birther jokes.

How can someone with a great education be so ignorant?

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A Harvard-educated lawyer tried to talk me into being a Republican today. (Original Post) grasswire Sep 2012 OP
willfully. that's how. nt xchrom Sep 2012 #1
Romney went to Harvard and he's a douchebag Arctic Dave Sep 2012 #2
So did Dumbya. GoCubsGo Sep 2012 #23
From the thread title, I thought you had met Romney. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #3
This is nothing new Speck Tater Sep 2012 #4
Great Line-Well stated- Thanks John Mill lumpy Sep 2012 #8
+++ 1,000,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Sep 2012 #10
now dumbing down disguised as 'no child left behind' RepublicansRZombies Sep 2012 #13
The best education is only what you make of it Care Acutely Sep 2012 #5
oooh, i'm gonna have to try that! unblock Sep 2012 #7
If the brussels sprouts were roasted, it might actually be okay. n/t gkhouston Sep 2012 #12
the harvard student body is unique, even distinguished from places like princeton and yale. unblock Sep 2012 #6
Yale = Public Service/Government work abumbyanyothername Sep 2012 #20
Did you laugh at his face Panasonic Sep 2012 #9
I try to be kind to him. grasswire Sep 2012 #11
My first husband was a Harvard man. You know the old saying: CTyankee Sep 2012 #14
You answered the question yourself in your OP. RagAss Sep 2012 #15
character and education are two seperate things. salin Sep 2012 #16
They generally hate people, and take every opportunity to disparage and humiliate them bhikkhu Sep 2012 #17
Movies are designed to "make us feel" certain things. It's an industry. Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #18
Educated does not equal Smart. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #19
He is not educated...yet. AlinPA Sep 2012 #21
"Even Harvard makes mistakes, Kissinger went there" smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #22
 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
4. This is nothing new
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:02 PM
Sep 2012

“Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.”
--John Stuart Mill (1806-1873)

Care Acutely

(1,370 posts)
5. The best education is only what you make of it
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:06 PM
Sep 2012

Like pouring pure, natural Vermont maple syrup on brussel sprouts.

unblock

(52,112 posts)
6. the harvard student body is unique, even distinguished from places like princeton and yale.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:06 PM
Sep 2012

while there are certainly over-privileged kids at any ivy league school, harvard has an exceptionally large concentration of them.

especially at the undergraduate level, princeton and some other schools are notably superior to harvard because harvard has such an emphasis on its graduate schools. harvard is all about getting the nobel prize winners and having their professors earn nobel prizes and train their graduate students to win nobel prizes, and to connect to washington and serve in the white house and so on.

that's not to say harvard isn't a great undergraduate education, but it's NOT the best.


it is, however, the single most prestigious school name you can possibly put on your resume. for parents who want their kid to be seen as "#1", that's the ticket. EVERYONE has heard of harvard, and EVERYONE knows it's a great school.


point is, a lot of people attend harvard for the wrong reasons, and a lot of people don't get out of harvard anything like what it has to offer. professors there often teach by video, or have their graduate students do the real work. that rarely happens at, say, princeton. at a place like harvard, you have to be more self-directed. if you want to skate by, if you want to spend 4 years with your eyes closed, doing the work but not fully appreciating it, you can certainly do that at a place like harvard. no one's going to bop you over the head and enlighten you.

abumbyanyothername

(2,711 posts)
20. Yale = Public Service/Government work
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:46 PM
Sep 2012

Harvard = $$$$$$ Wall Street.

At least when I was applying to law school.

I did not get accepted at Harvard. I got wait-listed at Columbia (should have applied the next year).

Ended up at Iowa (my home state) -- which was just fine.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
9. Did you laugh at his face
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:14 PM
Sep 2012

and told him that 2016 is a debunked piece of shit that shouldn't even breathe, and D'Souza thrown into prison?

Then tell him that he's no liberal, and never will be until he realizes that Obama is a better president for his career, and also that Obama is also his alma-mate and shouldn't be insulting him.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
11. I try to be kind to him.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 06:01 PM
Sep 2012

He's a Vietnam veteran who endured some of the worst of that war, and has had a couple of strokes recently. I made it clear that I was extremely proud to be a Democrat. I told him Romney is a nitwit.

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
14. My first husband was a Harvard man. You know the old saying:
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:50 PM
Sep 2012

You can always tell a Harvard man, but you can't tell him much.

I jettisoned him thru divorce in 1980...

salin

(48,955 posts)
16. character and education are two seperate things.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:25 PM
Sep 2012

with education, and great need to self-rationalize, there are boundless paths to self-rationalize.

bhikkhu

(10,711 posts)
17. They generally hate people, and take every opportunity to disparage and humiliate them
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:31 PM
Sep 2012

most especially behind their backs where its safe, and usually using blunt and ugly humor. I've heard the worst things come out of otherwise intelligent seeming regular people's mouths. Equal opportunity - a special type of hate for each group when it comes to the jokes and such, but really its a general hatred of humanity, imagining themselves to be above it.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
18. Movies are designed to "make us feel" certain things. It's an industry.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:40 PM
Sep 2012

After watching Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" I was much more motivated and "Shindler's List" was very moving as was "Gangs of New York" for instance.

So your friend watches this BS movie thinking it's factually based and it's lies and propaganda. I got family who believe this crap too. Driving me nuts. Plus there are Churches that have sided with the Republicans. Can't believe those people are actually praying much, if so it's all talking and no listening.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
19. Educated does not equal Smart.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:40 PM
Sep 2012

And, you said that he's a racist.

You might as well have said that he's an ignorant asshole, because he's that, too.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. "Even Harvard makes mistakes, Kissinger went there"
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:35 PM
Sep 2012

Paraphrased quote from Woody Allen (sorry, my google isn't pulling up - can't find the exact quote).

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