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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:28 PM Sep 2012

Why oh why is "anti-colonialism" supposed to be a bad thing???

I see it freakin' everywhere lately, and not one fool who uses the term has been able or willing to explain what's so bad about it.

Do they think "colonial" refers to the time period when the Constitution was written? Do they not realize how utterly anti-colonial the Declaration of Independence is??? Or is it like "Marxist" and "Muslim" where they just repeat words without giving a single thought to what they mean???

*hits head with brick to dull the pain of ignorance*

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Ilsa

(61,691 posts)
2. I was wondering the same as my
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:39 PM
Sep 2012

Best friend was telling me about the anti-Obama movie and that BO's father was anti-colonialist. My friend of over 25 years has turned against Obama: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021288554

Use of that term in a derogatory manner, like "entitlements", is how the RW tries to reframe issues with language.

Colonialism: Noun
The policy or practice of acquiring full or partial political control over another country, occupying it with settlers, and exploiting...

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
5. It's another scary term white people can call Obama instead of N--ger
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:49 PM
Sep 2012

Well certain white people. I was listening to the C-Span call in show yesterday. And this elderly women said she watched 2016, and she knows Obama's plan for Anti-colonialism. And he was in lock step with his African Father. She had no clue what she was talking about, and couldn't answer questions that had nothing to do witb the main talking points.

She just kept repeating that word over and over. Whenever I hear someone say, "he's a (fill in the blank)"
what they really wants to say is N-word
IMO

Think Blazin' Saddles

Yavin4

(35,430 posts)
6. It's Okay When White Men Are Anti-Colonial. But It's Bad When Black and Asian People Are.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:59 PM
Sep 2012

See, when you put it in stark racial tones, you will see their thinking.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. Yeah, it's just stupidity of a different kind
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:01 PM
Sep 2012

Even if Barack Sr. was anti-colonialist, so what. It would be about the British colonizing Kenya. Thus it would be more like the Founding Fathers. They must have been anti-colonial. They didn't want to stay a colony. So who knows what they are even getting at? They must study for words they can use to confuse the idiots among us.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
8. It's probably just racism.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:06 PM
Sep 2012

Some of these people really do believe that blacks, Mesoamericans, and Australian Aborigines, deserved to be treated like shit just because they lost wars with white Caucasians.....

Jim__

(14,073 posts)
9. In his movie, 2016, D'Souza presents anti-colonialism as anti-Americanism.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:10 PM
Sep 2012

People that hate Obama, and there are a lot of them, will uncritically accept D'Souza's claim.

Here's a review by Stanley Fish of D'Souza's movie. An excerpt:

...

It’s easy to imagine strong objections to that argument, but it’s not the argument D’Souza puts front and center; it’s an aside. The argument he does put front and center will provoke even stronger objections and will be received by many as objectionable because it is not an argument at all, but an accusation: Obama’s policies are not simply counterproductive, they are un-American.

This accusation has been implicit in much that has been said along the way, but 25 minutes before the end of the movie, it takes over. The hinge assertion is D’Souza’s declaration that Obama’s ideology is “remote to America.” By that he could mean simply that he got some of his ideas from places outside this country, from Kenya (his father) or Palestine (Said) or Brazil (Unger).

But that observation, which is also true of the founding fathers, who got many of their ideas from Locke, Diderot, Montesquieu, Rousseau, Spinoza, Milton and Aristotle, is relatively anodyne. (The place or tradition from which you draw your ideas is independent of the uses to which they are put.) By “remote,” D’Souza means something more seriously damning: Obama’s ideas are remote in the sense that they are foreign; they grew in other soil and do not belong in America; they are antithetical to the American spirit. Indeed, they are anti-American, a judgment expressed in the movie by Daniel Pipes, who says flatly that Obama “doesn’t think well of America”; the president’s ideas, echoes D’Souza, are “separate from American thought.”

So we have a choice, D’Souza tells us in conclusion, between “America’s dream and Obama’s dream,” or, more precisely, between America’s dream and Obama’s anti-American dream. We made that choice in 2008 without knowing that it was anti-Americanism we were choosing. Now we know (because D’Souza has told us), and we had better act quickly in 2012 because if we don’t the world “could be a scary place in 2016.”

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hlthe2b

(102,193 posts)
10. Because the colonialists were white and those they colonized were.... not?
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:24 PM
Sep 2012

that's how I see these assholes who spew this crap... They view those who colonized (quite literally) as the "great white hope".

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