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David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:28 PM Sep 2012

Televised Media Intentionally Downplays Obama's Crowd Sizes & Magnifies Romney Tiny Gatherings

It's pathetic. Really pathetic.

In either a false compulsion of a warped sense of "fairness" to Romney or worse, by intention, the big television broadcast and cable networks are visually downplaying the large rallies that turn out for President Obama. It's no longer, as Mick Jagger might say, "just my imagination running away with me". My family has monitored this issue carefully and this is no longer an accident.

Someone in management at the networks has put their camera people in straight jackets (or the camera people are biased) so they will not, and I mean will not, pan out and show the large sizes of Obama's crowds, while they make tight camera angle shots of Mitt Romney inside a donut shop look like he has filled a stadium.

Also, notice how official crowd estimates, which are very large at Obama events, seem to be omitted from printed and on-line news stories as well.

What is up with this shit?

Really!

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Televised Media Intentionally Downplays Obama's Crowd Sizes & Magnifies Romney Tiny Gatherings (Original Post) David Zephyr Sep 2012 OP
cnn is terrible about this--one reason they lost me as a viewer DonRedwood Sep 2012 #1
I noticed this in 2008 at... YvonneCa Sep 2012 #2
Just saw an AP/Yahoo story with Mitt, and the angle was obviously manipulated... progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #3
I'm glad I'm not the only one whose seen this. David Zephyr Sep 2012 #4
They want a close race because it improves their ratings. surrealAmerican Sep 2012 #5
Yes, I think you are right DLnyc Sep 2012 #15
I think that is why the polls are so "close". I find a lot of them hard to believe. Maraya1969 Sep 2012 #20
I recently read an article on things that would be gone in a very short time. Booster Sep 2012 #21
They want a close race, in order to increase their ad revenues. n/t JackBeck Sep 2012 #22
Precisely Sherman A1 Sep 2012 #27
K&R. They want those right wing ad dollars really badly. Overseas Sep 2012 #6
Mick was just quoting the Temptations.... Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #7
You are so right, Bluenorthwest. David Zephyr Sep 2012 #9
The media want it to be more of a Horse Race. It'd be the same if positions were reversed. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #8
There are lies that the Corporate Owned Media tells so that when the crooked Corporate Owned vote Vincardog Sep 2012 #10
I agree 100%. They'll steal the election and no one will question it, lob1 Sep 2012 #28
Just like "no one" objected to the illegal SCOTUS ruling that gave us 8 years of Dim Son. Vincardog Sep 2012 #30
Its simple really... AsahinaKimi Sep 2012 #11
Yup. They'll do shots like this BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #12
Excellent photos, BumRushDaShow. David Zephyr Sep 2012 #16
I boycott all MSM channels for news or political commentary. ananda Sep 2012 #13
THERE IS A SILVER LINING... Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #14
Mostly true. Dawson Leery Sep 2012 #29
Today: President Obama in Florida: Over 11,000. Romney in Virginia Beach: "Several Hundred" David Zephyr Sep 2012 #17
Nascar is in a rain delay itsrobert Sep 2012 #26
manufactured consent RepublicansRZombies Sep 2012 #18
but we can't ignore the media, they are lying to millions RepublicansRZombies Sep 2012 #19
no mystery. Media owned by big corp. dollars - right wing. NOT objective at all. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #23
You're right malaise Sep 2012 #24
propaganda, that kind of shit. Whisp Sep 2012 #25

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
2. I noticed this in 2008 at...
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:35 PM
Sep 2012

...the McCain events. It was clear the crowds were small, particularly pre-Palin. They seem to have taken 'fair and balanced' to an all new level. Truth has taken a back seat...seemingly on purpose.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
3. Just saw an AP/Yahoo story with Mitt, and the angle was obviously manipulated...
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:36 PM
Sep 2012

there are no large crowd shots from a distance with Mitt. Even that faul spontaneous crowd-with-cards shot this weekend, only showed a section of the stadium, which means it was otherwise empty.

The MSM is owned by Mitt's peers, and the employees that make decisions like that are also 1%ers and republicans. They don't want to give up the fat money.. they don't care a bit about everyone else, and are willing to manipulate it. All we can do is share the HUGE pics with our family/friends online, and hope that some clever folks take pics at the real number of the mitt events, and puts them online to counter. Bush used fake crowd photos all the time.. bad photoshops increasing the crowd by thousands. the media never called them on it.

surrealAmerican

(11,358 posts)
5. They want a close race because it improves their ratings.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:41 PM
Sep 2012

It's crass and dishonest, and it will eventually make them irrelevant. The demographics of TV news viewers gets older every year.

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
15. Yes, I think you are right
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 06:32 PM
Sep 2012

They don't report when one candidate pulls way ahead, because they want to keep the race "exciting".

Obama is way more popular and if they reported truthfully, his popularity would only grow with a 'bandwagon' effect.

Not the first time, either. They vastly under-reported Obama's crowds, and neglected to point out McCain's pitiful gatherings, in 2008.

Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
20. I think that is why the polls are so "close". I find a lot of them hard to believe.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:13 PM
Sep 2012

Because if it came out that Obama was ahead by 10 points every time people would stop paying such close attention. They certainly would stop checking the polls everyday.

Booster

(10,021 posts)
21. I recently read an article on things that would be gone in a very short time.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:14 PM
Sep 2012

Television, as we know it, was on that list. It is their own damn fault.

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
6. K&R. They want those right wing ad dollars really badly.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:41 PM
Sep 2012

They want to amplify the idea that "America is so polarized," and "it is a close race" to encourage the Kochs and Roves to keep pouring more money into Rob-me and Lyin.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
10. There are lies that the Corporate Owned Media tells so that when the crooked Corporate Owned vote
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:49 PM
Sep 2012

manipulating machines do their jobs, the result sounds "possible".

lob1

(3,820 posts)
28. I agree 100%. They'll steal the election and no one will question it,
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:52 PM
Sep 2012

if everyone thinks it's close.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
30. Just like "no one" objected to the illegal SCOTUS ruling that gave us 8 years of Dim Son.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:21 PM
Sep 2012

And "no one" was against the disasters in IRaq and Afghanistan.

If it was not on Corporate Owned MEdia it did not happen.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
11. Its simple really...
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:49 PM
Sep 2012

The networks want it to appear Romeney is more popular than Obama. Hell, if they could, they probably would have had three people sitting in the front row..and make it appear like no one showed up..

But they knew they couldn't get away with it. The media moguls call the shots on this, and they are in bed with the Republicans.

BumRushDaShow

(128,516 posts)
12. Yup. They'll do shots like this
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:52 PM
Sep 2012


or this -



But won't pull back and show you this -



Meanwhile - in Boulder at the University of Colorado just before the convention, you have this -



And when you call them on it, they start spouting nonsense about "not a rock star", although they are quick to dub their own "rising stars".

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
16. Excellent photos, BumRushDaShow.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 06:36 PM
Sep 2012

It really is obscene now how this continues. President Obama's crowds blow Romney's away and yet, watching television or reading printed or on-line reports, you'd never know it. Thanks for the photos.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
14. THERE IS A SILVER LINING...
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:54 PM
Sep 2012

Local news! This is important! Remember, most Americans do not watch cable news. Their numbers, even FOX, are insignificant if you think about it. But they do watch their nightly news and they do read their local papers. That is huge and important because they generally DO report on crowd size and interview rally goers and it does trickle down to average Americans.

It doesn't make up for the crap the MSM does ... but the bigger crowds do make an impact at the local level!

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
17. Today: President Obama in Florida: Over 11,000. Romney in Virginia Beach: "Several Hundred"
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 06:56 PM
Sep 2012

After searching for a very long time through news articles, I finally came across the numbers:

President Obama drew a crowd of over 11,000 today in Florida.

Candidate Mitt Romney drew a crowd described as "several hundred" in Virginia Beach.

Try to find any comparison of the crowd size startling difference between these two candidates reported and you will be worn out in your effort.

Hardly an accident.

Oh, Romney will poach a NASCAR audience today of 90,000 because he can't create a crowd of his own.

Really!

 
18. manufactured consent
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 06:56 PM
Sep 2012

Koch pays them to pretend Romney has supporters, Koch pays Rove to steal the election, Koch pays the media to cover it up.

This just happened so obviously in Wisconsin.

Walker was paying people to put up yard signs to give the impression people liked him.

Then they easily stole the election and convinced everyone that someone must have voted for him.

After all the effort Wisconsin activists put in, the pizza revolution at the capital, the recall signatures that were so easy to get because everyone hates Walker.

Walker had to bus in felons to get signatures for their recalls.

How the hell did Walker win?

Manufactured consent and election theft.

And they'll do it again, if we let them.

 
19. but we can't ignore the media, they are lying to millions
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 06:58 PM
Sep 2012

We have to confront the media, prove they are liars for the 1% and anything but liberal!

proposing a new DU Group - Occupy the Media (from your laptop)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021303393

malaise

(268,717 posts)
24. You're right
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:39 PM
Sep 2012

I was watching CBS Florida news earlier and they discussed Rmoney's rally before mentioning the Obama rally in St Petersburg today.

By the way 'Just my Imagination' is Smokey Robinson not Mick Jagger.

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